Derek McInnes

[Goalposter]

Are we really trying to compare Fergie and McInnes right now? Its like trying to compare apples and orange. They were two completely different era's and no one can ever know how either would have performed in the other. Christ, Mcinnes was 7 when Fergie took charge of Aberdeen, so its hardly the basis for comparison.

As for trophies, well league first, SC second and LC 3rd. I would take any of them over any good run in any competition. Seeing as we can realistically only win 2 of the 3, its the SC every time. If he can win that, then he deserves credit... wont happen though.

Stupie my point was whether or not a class manager like Fergie during 1 of his greatest reigns would win the league.
Its comparing a truly great manager with DM and wondering what if anything DM could do to inspire this team to perform far better.

Its hypothetical of course but interesting I think.

I wonder how training or team talks or tactics would be different.

[Stupie82]

Stupie my point was whether or not a class manager like Fergie during 1 of his greatest reigns would win the league.
Its comparing a truly great manager with DM and wondering what if anything DM could do to inspire this team to perform far better.

Its hypothetical of course but interesting I think.

I wonder how training or team talks or tactics would be different.

The problem is that the current era of football is based on finances, whereas Fergies was based on ability. Yes there were some finances involved, but they were achievable. Trying to compare if Fergie would do well in the current climate of Scottish football is nonsensical. He would very likely bring a more stern approach and boot players @rses, but in the era of snowflakes and poovery, i dont think he would succeed with our current crop. That said, most of them wouldnt be here under him anyway. Its far too complex to try and compare managers, even comparing him to McGhee or Calderwood is far too complex. Again different era's and different level of competition in the game.

[rico94]

We’re allowed to compare him to McGhee, not Fergie

I thought it was an unwritten rule on here these days that you aren't allowed to compare McInnes to McGhee?

Fair enough but you definitely shouldn't compare anyone to Fergie, that was a one off and will never happen again.

[Mason89]

So was McGhee

[rico94]

So was McGhee

Not sure if he was, I would say Alex Miller was equally as bad as McGhee and imo Patterson was worse.

[LaFlamaBlanca]

If Fergie was in charge these days I would bet there would be more youngsters in the team. Fergie played youngsters cos he could bully them, intimidate them and mould them into the player he wanted. Fergie got the best out of most of the players he had, is McInnes getting the best out of his players? Some yes, some no at various points in the season I would say.
The one thing that McInnes should be able to copy is telling his players not to give a damn about reputations of certain clubs. Its his job to send those players out on the park feeling 10 foot tall and ready to take on anybody. When we have played the cheeks this season, that clearly has not been the case. That starts with his tactics and his approach. I`m sure every professional footballer at the club recognises he changes to negative formations when we play them. If they see the manager has sh@t it, its not going to do much for them mentally is it? I still think McInnes has been good for the club but he is just way too overly cautious. If he wants to lift the Scottish cup this season, he will have to play Celtic or Rangers. Cant be going into a cup final with a negative approach. God forbid getting to the final and Rangers lifting the trophy in front of us! THAT scenario would be a deal breaker for me.

[afc1903mad]

If Fergie was in charge these days I would bet there would be more youngsters in the team. Fergie played youngsters cos he could bully them, intimidate them and mould them into the player he wanted.

You should give that credit to Dick Donald.
Fergie approached Dick Donald asking for funds to go buy seasoned players and was pointed tot he training pitch and told to work with the youngsters.
Years later, Fergie then admitted he burnt out those youth players by over playing them.

I get it, there's a balance, but what I've seen so far from the likes of Wright, is that there is not enough consistency and often poor decision making, hence he's not nailed down a first team place yet.
I actually think Frank Ross has a better chance long term and he's currently gaining experience with Morton.

[donsdaft]

There was much talk of burnout at the time (or very soon afterwards at least)

Personally I would say he got them to the peak of their careers at an early age.

Far too much emphasis is put on age nowadays.

Your best striker might be 16, play him now.
He might be no good by 20

[Jackjarvis]

You should give that credit to Dick Donald.
Fergie approached Dick Donald asking for funds to go buy seasoned players and was pointed tot he training pitch and told to work with the youngsters.
Years later, Fergie then admitted he burnt out those youth players by over playing them.

I get it, there's a balance, but what I've seen so far from the likes of Wright, is that there is not enough consistency and often poor decision making, hence he's not nailed down a first team place yet.
I actually think Frank Ross has a better chance long term and he's currently gaining experience with Morton.

In between pointing to the red ash across the road he also gave SAF the money for the record transfer fee paid in Scotland for the gas meter along with giving SAF sufficient funds to make the dons team at that time the highest paid in Scotland, hence a few had decent careers with us........Mr Donald was an excellent chairman, sadly his loon and the present incumbent could not follow in his footsteps.

SF

[Jupiter]

If Fergie was our manager now, there would be no tombola or tactical brain farts and we wouldn't bottle it in big games.