Derek McInnes

[afc1903mad]

Christ!

I've never considered the possibility of it not being a tombola.

Bloody hell, that's worse.

The Tombola thoughts is such an absurd meme.
If a Tombola was used, some of those players lauded for would play more and those that are criticised would play less if it simply was random luck.

[Aldo1983]

All true but equally there has still been 'non youngsters' getting too much game time.
I'd sooner watch a youngster struggle than eg O'Connor struggle...

I just think the energy, lack of fear, and spontaneity of youth is worth more of a risk.

That's really what happened, he had to play McKenna because he can no longer trust Reynolds. I don't think his loan spells made Mcinnes think he had the "best centre half in Scotland".

[kigoretrout]

Fergie would have no more chance of winning the league under present conditions than McInnes,

In his 8 seasons here Fergie won the league 3 times, Dundee Utd won it once, Celtic won it 4 times. Celtic won it more often than we did even though the gulf in financial spend was a fraction of what it is today. At the time our players were on not massively dissimilar money from theirs, whereas now even their fringe bench-warmers are paid a multiple of what our top players earn.

Fergie did a magnificent job but he did it in an era when we could attract and retain far better players than we've any hope of bringing here now.

In a lot of cases we were paying more than Celtic and far more than Rangers pre- Souness.

We also had a team packed full of Scottish Internationals, more than the cheeks put together. The comparisons are pointless and meaningless.

[kigoretrout]

Fergie would have won this league with his eyes shut! Players like Considine, O’Connor etc would have not played for long if ever. Being a bottler and a happy clapper was not allowed. You had to prove you deserved a place in the team and excepting defeat from the likes of Celtic and Rangers would not be tolerated (happy clapping)!

Blethers ! See above.

[rico94]

That's really what happened, he had to play McKenna because he can no longer trust Reynolds. I don't think his loan spells made Mcinnes think he had the "best centre half in Scotland".

Isn't that how young players usually get into the first team?

Its a bit before my time so someone older can correct me if Im wrong but did Alex McLeish not break into the first team because of an injury or loss of form to Willie Garner?

[kigoretrout]

Although I would concede Fergie would have made a far better a fist of it in the games against the cheeks with the players available than McInnes.

[rico94]

All true but equally there has still been 'non youngsters' getting too much game time.
I'd sooner watch a youngster struggle than eg O'Connor struggle...

I just think the energy, lack of fear, and spontaneity of youth is worth more of a risk.

I agree, I would rather see Harvie get a game at left back than Considine.

[kigoretrout]

Isn't that how young players usually get into the first team?

Its a bit before my time so someone older can correct me if Im wrong but did Alex McLeish not break into the first team because of an injury or loss of form to Willie Garner?

Could have been. Rougvie was also a first choice centre back ahead of McLeish before he broke through is my hazy recollection.

[rico94]

Wright has shown flashes of great flair.

That s enough for me as a supportwr to nurture him...concentrate on taking him the next stages through encouragement and experience of playing more games.

A good manager would get the best out of wright not drop him after he makes a few mistakes while he obviously has talent.

Every single player in our team has made a ton of mistakes and stayed in the first team so thos thing about him not being good enough for the present team is sh*te.

You cant drop everyone of course but why only choose Wright who has flair and flashes of brilliance imo.

Hes exciting ..and runs at defences.

You can only say that about gms or mcginn... at times.

I dont know what kind of football dm is trying to get the team to play but it sure aint exciting.

The last 2 games I saw Wright play in was the Huns game at home and the Hibs 4-1 game. GMS gets stick for being lightweight but in both of those games Wright was getting nudged off the ball like a rag doll, some of the stick he was getting at the Huns game from the supporters around me would have done his confidence no good what so ever so I can see why McInnes has taken him out of the team.

A spell on loan to a championship team to build himself up for next season would have been the best idea for the loon.

[dons8321]

Isn't that how young players usually get into the first team?

Its a bit before my time so someone older can correct me if Im wrong but did Alex McLeish not break into the first team because of an injury or loss of form to Willie Garner?

Aye, made his debut on 2nd Jan 78 v. Dundee Utd 'cos Garner was "ill"