O/T New British passports

[animallittle3]

£120m cheaper to offer the contract to the french / dutch company .

Clearly the uk company went in way too high , that's a significant differential .

[Romared]

I don't know if it's Del A Rue based in the North East that have put the bid in ? They used to print cheque books etc for all Major Banks, and charged an absolute fortune for the priveledge, Printing of Cheque books will soon become a thing of the past, it maybe that if it is them ? They may want to make a killing out of printing passports ? GREEDY GREEDY FIRM , good luck to the firm that wins this contract and possibly keeping the cost of renewal or new passports cheaper , Carnt fault em

[Romared]

Sorry just noticed Animal's post said it was Del a Rue

[Exiletyke]

Sorry just noticed Animal's post said it was Del a Rue

What, do you seriously think that any savings will be passed on to the consumer
Who's going to pay for redundancies unemployment benefits etc
Oh yeah the taxpayer

[frenchlion]

I don't know if it's Del A Rue based in the North East that have put the bid in ? They used to print cheque books etc for all Major Banks, and charged an absolute fortune for the priveledge, Printing of Cheque books will soon become a thing of the past, it maybe that if it is them ? They may want to make a killing out of printing passports ? GREEDY GREEDY FIRM , good luck to the firm that wins this contract and possibly keeping the cost of renewal or new passports cheaper , Carnt fault em

Evening Roma...before I retired I used to work for Gemalto...the company that won the passport tender. There will be two production possibilities, either they will be produced in their specialised ID production site in Finland or they will be subcontracted out to the French national printing company. Whatever solution that will be chosen, given the labour costs I can confirm that they will not be cheap to produce. Gemalto are not in business to lose money...believe me, far from it...so their tender was certainly fair. How they can be 100 million cheaper than De la Rue is unreal. I don’t know if DLR have previously been put to tender by the UK government as they were the only supplier since passports were first issued and they probably thought is was a forgone conclusion but seemingly they seriously plucked up! Today it is estimated that half of the world’s population....that’s a lot of people....use daily a Gemalto product...Bank cards,Sim cards,passports,drivers licence,pay tv,security badges etc etc.

[lk311]

I agree that it would be better to have the Passports printed in UK, but you do have to question how there was such a large variation in tender values.
Perhaps given the fact they have lost a few contracts recently might have something to do with it.

[Romared]

Evening Roma...before I retired I used to work for Gemalto...the company that won the passport tender. There will be two production possibilities, either they will be produced in their specialised ID production site in Finland or they will be subcontracted out to the French national printing company. Whatever solution that will be chosen, given the labour costs I can confirm that they will not be cheap to produce. Gemalto are not in business to lose money...believe me, far from it...so their tender was certainly fair. How they can be 100 million cheaper than De la Rue is unreal. I don’t know if DLR have previously been put to tender by the UK government as they were the only supplier since passports were first issued and they probably thought is was a forgone conclusion but seemingly they seriously plucked up! Today it is estimated that half of the world’s population....that’s a lot of people....use daily a Gemalto product...Bank cards,Sim cards,passports,drivers licence,pay tv,security badges etc etc.

Evening Frenchlion , ithink you have summed up DLR well , Another firm just plucking any number out, and being greedy time after time , backfired this time though ,,

[Exiletyke]

£120m cheaper to offer the contract to the french / dutch company .

Clearly the uk company went in way too high , that's a significant differential .

Do you know if the savings are per annum then you're right but usually in the tendering adjudicating process savings are calculated over the life of the contract I'd be assuming 5 years
But not to worry any job loss costs will be borne by the UK taxpayer in the form of unemployment & other benefits so in short someone else is paying

I have often wondered if German vehicles are cheaper than any one elses when tenders are invited for Police Fire Ambulance vehicles as you will not see many other than German vehicles used in Germany in this area
Same goes for France & Italy
Odd int it?

[Exiletyke]

No sirree they look after their own

[Exiletyke]

Do you know if the savings are per annum then you're right but usually in the tendering adjudicating process savings are calculated over the life of the contract I'd be assuming 5 years
But not to worry any job loss costs will be borne by the UK taxpayer in the form of unemployment & other benefits so in short someone else is paying

I have often wondered if German vehicles are cheaper than any one elses when tenders are invited for Police Fire Ambulance vehicles as you will not see many other than German vehicles used in Germany in this area
Same goes for France & Italy
Odd int it?

Now understand the contract will be for 11 years
Presumably to end in 2030

Good eh?