Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
Eh? You sound very defeatist there Sinkov.

Like I say, it would not surprise me in the least if, after the EU reject the deal, we will go for the hard Brexit.

You are passionate about your hard Brexit and I am a passionate Remoaner. Some people are happy about the deal.
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What is the consensus? We won't know until we ask the people.
I don't really know what you mean by a 'hard' Brexit 59/60, I just want what we were promised, to leave the EU. I posted what I expected to be delivered in Post 32, whether this deal meets my idea of Brexit or not, I have no idea yet. I've bought the Sunday Times today but I haven't read it yet, maybe I'll find out what exactly is proposed later, if I can force myself to read it.

I have no problem with you being a Remainer, we differ on that, but you may well be right, we may well be better off staying in. But that was a decision for the referendum, I expected that having voted to leave we would then find out over the next few years which of us was correct, if it did indeed turn out to be a disaster we could have applied to go back in, but if we and up as we both expect, half out and half in, we'll never know will we ? I won't be happy, you won't be happy, and the EU will be laughing at us. But by the Remoaners refusal to accept the result of the referendum, and success in thwarting the governments attempts to achieve a clean break, or a hard Brexit as you would call it, that's what we'll have to live with. Just please don't moan about it.