Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
Broadly agree - but what's your point? The country was given a choice and voted leave.

And what of The Great Leader? Does he have a view on Brexit and could he actually bring the Labour party into line on it?
Yes his view is that we are leaving the EU and honouring the referendum result .

I'd suggest Starmer would prefer a softer brexit and he seems to have a better handle on this than anybody I've seen involved in the process , not because he's Labour but because he just does , simple as that .

Davies seemed out of his depth and was undermined frequently by the hard core tory brexiters , something May failed to control effectively , I'm surprised he lasted so long to be honest .

Johnson will do almost anything to feather his own nest , in his head he thinks he can be PM one day but that's entitlement for you , there is absolutely no way he will win a leadership contest against May , not a chance .

Personally I think Labour took a shot to the ribs today with Johnson's departure , he's the useful idiot , does more damage to their party than he's given credit for .

May inherited this from Cameron and his attempts to reunite the tory party , let's be clear on this , the referendum was about the tory party and not what's best for the UK .

So they own this in my opinion , lock , stock and barrel and history will judge them accordingly .

Whether holding office would make Corbyn more effective at knocking the rest of the party into shape is the real question and not sat in opposition .

Holding power with a majority gives a leader more clout something May threw away so I'd suggest yes he would bring the party in to line far more effectively than May .

In opposition he will struggle and not just because of brexit .

UK politics on the whole is in a bad place , divisions , charlatans , self servers and very little honour .

Pyssed off with it as the next man in all honesty .