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[KerrAvon]

Your attempts at fishing are plainly poor, you don't like honesty do you Kerr?

There was no fishing there. By branding anyone who is willing to argue against current Labour party policy as self interested, uncaring or even Tory you demonstrate as much bigotry and prejudice as gf. You just don't see it because you are too busy feeling worthy.

[millmoormagic]

There was no fishing there. By branding anyone who is willing to argue against current Labour party policy as self interested, uncaring or even Tory you demonstrate as much bigotry and prejudice as gf. You just don't see it because you are too busy feeling worthy.

You're not arguing against labour party policy, you're arguing FOR homelessness, more foodbanks, more in work poverty, more millionaires dodging tax, and you know what, that makes you self interested and uncaring even if you can't see it yersen....

[KerrAvon]

You're not arguing against labour party policy, you're arguing FOR homelessness, more foodbanks, more in work poverty, more millionaires dodging tax, and you know what, that makes you self interested and uncaring even if you can't see it yersen....

How am I arguing for those things, MMM? My argument is that increasing corporate tax rates makes the UK a less attractive place to do business than it is at the present time. Surely you can accept that? If you can't, what is your counter argument?

There are several companies who have openly indicated that they are actively considering leaving the UK. HSBC has been saying it for years, Airbus and BMW in the last couple of weeks. So, if a future in the UK is in the balance for huge employers and tax payers such as these (and don't forget the supply chain and support companies that rely on their business) surely you can see the risk in adding in another factor that reduces the attractiveness of the UK?

I don't see increased unemployment and reduced economic activity as a solution to homelessness or poverty.

When have I argued in favour of millionaires dodging tax and what have corporate tax rates got to do with it.

Thanks for pointing out that I'm uncaring. I guess that means that I should pack in the voluntary sessions that I do at my local Citizens Advice Bureau. I've been doing them for fourteen years so they are probably sick of seeing me.

[millmoormagic]

How am I arguing for those things, MMM? My argument is that increasing corporate tax rates makes the UK a less attractive place to do business than it is at the present time. Surely you can accept that? If you can't, what is your counter argument?

There are several companies who have openly indicated that they are actively considering leaving the UK. HSBC has been saying it for years, Airbus and BMW in the last couple of weeks. So, if a future in the UK is in the balance for huge employers and tax payers such as these (and don't forget the supply chain and support companies that rely on their business) surely you can see the risk in adding in another factor that reduces the attractiveness of the UK?

I don't see increased unemployment and reduced economic activity as a solution to homelessness or poverty.

When have I argued in favour of millionaires dodging tax and what have corporate tax rates got to do with it.

Thanks for pointing out that I'm uncaring. I guess that means that I should pack in the voluntary sessions that I do at my local Citizens Advice Bureau. I've been doing them for fourteen years so they are probably sick of seeing me.

Ok, you're slowly getting there, so your argument that the rise in tax makes the UK a less attractive place to do business, ok, i suppose it does, but when those tax rises leave your rate still much LOWER than your competitors, then even though it's less attractive, it's STILL more attractive than those competitors, or are you only including that counter argument when you can include allsorts of other costs to try and prove your argument....

Now youre mentioning Airbus/BMW/Jaguar etc, i think you'll find they're railing against brexit, not much else, they also do business in the EU you know, paying much higher corporation tax than they do here, and would still do with a 5% rise.....do you support brexit....

Those voluntary sessions arent used as a tax break thingy by any chance are they or am i being a tad cynical? i applaud your volunteering...