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    Morning Sinkov.

    A list of EU trade deals at the link.

    http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/cou...artly-in-place

    It is looking more and more likely that we could be making a complete break from the EU in March. That's just 8 months away. When the EU rejects Theresa's plan (which you do not support) then Parliament will have to decide whether to make the concessions which they will ask for. Boris and Rees-Mogg etc will make sure that this does not happen.
    So Theresa will have three options. A General Election (which would probably result in Jeremy taking over), no deal - meaning we will leave in March without any deal, or handing the decision to the public (which she has ruled out)
    I think the no deal is the one she will opt for - she can say that "no deal is better than a bad deal" and maintain a little bit of face.

    So I reckon you will get your way in March Sinkov.

    At that point we will not have a trade agreement in place with the EU or anyone else. These deals take ages to set up and in the meantime we are likely to be trading under WTO rules...with all that that entails.
    And we have just 8 months to sort out the Irish border thing, and a whole host of issues that will result.

    Congratulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    Morning Sinkov.

    A list of EU trade deals at the link.

    http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/cou...artly-in-place

    It is looking more and more likely that we could be making a complete break from the EU in March. That's just 8 months away. When the EU rejects Theresa's plan (which you do not support) then Parliament will have to decide whether to make the concessions which they will ask for. Boris and Rees-Mogg etc will make sure that this does not happen.
    So Theresa will have three options. A General Election (which would probably result in Jeremy taking over), no deal - meaning we will leave in March without any deal, or handing the decision to the public (which she has ruled out)
    I think the no deal is the one she will opt for - she can say that "no deal is better than a bad deal" and maintain a little bit of face.

    So I reckon you will get your way in March Sinkov.

    At that point we will not have a trade agreement in place with the EU or anyone else. These deals take ages to set up and in the meantime we are likely to be trading under WTO rules...with all that that entails.
    And we have just 8 months to sort out the Irish border thing, and a whole host of issues that will result.

    Congratulations.
    Thanks for the link 59/60, it's a bit pathetic really isn't, I pointed out that the EU had been unable to conclude trade deals in 45 years with the world's biggest 10 economies. If you extend that list to the top 20 biggest economies you can also add the following countries that have no trade deal with them, S Korea, Russia, Australia, Mexico, Indonesia, Turkey, S. Arabia, Argentina and Taiwan. And of course, if the EU has no trade deal with them, we don't either, due to a dysfunctional EU we already trade with the world's biggest economies under WTO rules.

    Strange that you seem concerned about WTO rules, when EU membership already obliges us to carry out most of our trade under them.

    Are you aware that a border already exists in Ireland, that the two countries operate different VAT rates, excise duty rates, and other tax rates ? These differences are managed perfectly well currently by the customs authorities, trade tariffs would be just one more different rate to manage. It's only a problem because the EU and their sock puppet in Dublin choose to make it one. But that's the EU for you.

    Incidentally, it's not my way, seems like we're back in that barrel of treacle. I'll try once more, check out May's Lancaster House speech, that's what 17 million people voted for, that's what I would like to see delivered.

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