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Thread: Player most improved under Rafa

  1. #11
    Seems there are a few to pick from

  2. #12
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    Perez. Without a shadow of a doubt. He was utter shoite. He was poking in some decent goals and being a nuisance last term, improving as the going got tough.

    Gayle has gone backwards IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waalsendmick View Post
    Shelvey, Lascelles, Perez, Dummett also Yedlin is better now than when he signed, as is Atsu (although he probably isn't quite good enough - canny cover for Kennedy though.)

    Mind you, I thought Rafa didn't improve players?
    funny as i thinks lascelles has hit a glass ceiling under rafa

    perez was a decnt player when he came just played out of position and was good for about a third of the season

    shelvey
    a supposed england international before rafa came

    drifted in and out of games far to much last season and if you remeber a lot of us agreed his tracking back etc was shocking

    atsu showed when allowed to attack what he could do wasnt let of the leash enough for me

    dummet
    again when we played defensive and he only had to mark the player in front and not think about attacking looked average

    diame done a lot to improve dummets game last season and shelveys for that

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    diame without doubt
    he made a lot of players look good last season

    but still drifeted in and out to much

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    Lascelles hit a glass ceiling under Rafa.Absolute classic.He wasn't getting a game here before Rafa came.

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    people need to look at lascelles stats
    shocking really
    only been involved in 12 clean sheets in the prem
    51 appearances
    53 goals scored against while he is playing
    doesnt creat any or many chances
    more losses than wins
    never assisted in a goal

    only slightly more than a 50% record in winning tackles

    only a couple of crosses and none of those got to the destination

    amazing for a defender some think should be playing at a higher level
    not even in coolos league
    Last edited by pboromag; 24-07-2018 at 07:19 PM.

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    Put the site up where you got them stats from.Would like to have a look.

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    The team lost 8 and drew 1 of the 9 games he MISSED last season.

    His stats are clouded from the games he played in a relegated team alongside collo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie1974 View Post
    Put the site up where you got them stats from.Would like to have a look.
    It's standard Pboro - if he can have a dig at some aspect of the club he will do.

    For me it's Perez that has improved the most, followed by Lascelles and then Shelvey.

    Whilst Diame massively improved on the start of the season, that player was always there we just hadn't seen it. For an overall i'm taking into account Championship as well.

    As others have said though, there are many that can be seen to have been improved by Rafa.

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    Try premier league stars

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