All the talk of allowing investors in....

[Silly-miller]

Just to give you a few figures to update the debate.
All being equal Tony Stewart will put £3m into the budget for this season. He seems happy to lose this amount on order to stroke his ego, make connections/advertise his businesses and make a contribution to the town but that is probably his limit.
We as fans have bought around 6500 season tickets. How much is that worth to the club?? A lot less than you think. When you take into account concessions, VAT, the football league levy and the cost of the direct debit system, the club will receive about £1.5m. If an average of 2000 fans pay on the day (they won't, that figure will be less) you are looking at 700k. One thing is for sure, Stewart will put more into the club this season than all the fanbase put together. Does anyone seriously think there is someone out there who is willing to do more? I seriously doubt it.

Well the club generally generates 11.5 million in total with 9 million on outgoings apart from that Blackstock year where we had outgoings at 13 million and 1.6 million of that was transfers. Big player wages like blackstock halford are gone so it should be making money but we won’t know for sure until figures for the coming year come out.

However you can’t run a championship club on freebies

[tony260674]

Silly, all the players got pay cuts when we were relegated, when we were promoted they will have had their pay increased. The club is run on a budget which mainly comes from 3 sources, TV money, sponsorship and gate receipts, very much in that order. Stewarts £3m comes in through sponsorship and without it, we would have £3m less to spend.
The club does not make money, it runs on what it generates. Unfortunately that is not as much as the other teams in this league.

[wrinkly]

Silly, all the players got pay cuts when we were relegated, when we were promoted they will have had their pay increased. The club is run on a budget which mainly comes from 3 sources, TV money, sponsorship and gate receipts, very much in that order. Stewarts £3m comes in through sponsorship and without it, we would have £3m less to spend.
The club does not make money, it runs on what it generates. Unfortunately that is not as much as the other teams in this league.

I'm not sure you are right about the sponsorship. Sponsorship originally, for sure, but more recently loans - I'm fairly sure.

Obviously there's a big difference. Sponsorship doesn't have to be paid back (would it also be classed as "income" under ffp, allowing a bigger wage budget?)

Loans are a debt for the club.

Either way I'm not criticising TS. He's done more for the club than any other chairman in my 50 odd years of supporting the club.

[tony260674]

I'm not sure you are right about the sponsorship. Sponsorship originally, for sure, but more recently loans - I'm fairly sure.

Obviously there's a big difference. Sponsorship doesn't have to be paid back (would it also be classed as "income" under ffp, allowing a bigger wage budget?)

Loans are a debt for the club.

Either way I'm not criticising TS. He's done more for the club than any other chairman in my 50 odd years of supporting the club.

I am right Wrinkly. Tony puts in £3m per season in the championship and it is put through as sponsorship. In the season before Huddersfield were promoted, our sponsorship was almost twice theirs.

[wrinkly]

I am right Wrinkly. Tony puts in £3m per season in the championship and it is put through as sponsorship. In the season before Huddersfield were promoted, our sponsorship was almost twice theirs.

The sponsorship dropped from £2.9 million in 2016 to £1 million in 2017.
The amount owed for loans from ASD went up from £600,00 2015- to £1.3 million 2016 - to £3.8 million 2017

edit I also see that the sponsorship was £970,000 in 2015