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    Quote Originally Posted by Roymit View Post
    Baggieal that should read - it seems there's a mischievous gremlin wishing to render you as a Jewish steamed roll with a hole in it. Weird. Apologies.

    Que? As reiterated again, I could not care less whether two guys swing from the lampshades within their own four walls as it's up to them! Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride especially our younger generation - most would say - not! How would a " we are straight march be perceived"?

    As one poster pointed out - nothing wrong with being gay or a girl having three guys at once, however it's not the norm! Seeing Police etc with rainbow stripes on faces/jackets etc to blend in is undermining the authority they hold. Should all the Police wear ginger wigs at an Ed Sheeran concert?

    PS - girls together rarely get mentioned as they don't feel the need to flaunt their ***ual orientation to the world! Then again girls wearing make up, and pretty dresses is the norm too out in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Que? As reiterated again, I could not care less whether two guys swing from the lampshades within their own four walls as it's up to them! Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride especially our younger generation - most would say - not! How would a " we are straight march be perceived"?

    As one poster pointed out - nothing wrong with being gay or a girl having three guys at once, however it's not the norm! Seeing Police etc with rainbow stripes on faces/jackets etc to blend in is undermining the authority they hold. Should all the Police wear ginger wigs at an Ed Sheeran concert?

    PS - girls together rarely get mentioned as they don't feel the need to flaunt their ***ual orientation to the world! Then again girls wearing make up, and pretty dresses is the norm too out in public.
    Dear Al, I don't understand what you mean when you say "Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride, especially our younger generation - most would say - not!"

    So are we to believe that it is only the majority view that matters on a subject such as ***ual orientation, even when you have absolutely no basis for such a statement? How do you know "most would say not". What I know is that when posters use words like "perversion" about people's behaviour because they dislike it or are uncomfortable with the idea of it then such a subject is is no longer in debate but the beginning of prejudice and intolerance. Let's have no more talk of not caring about gays and then instantly stating that it's not the norm. What the hell is the norm? Who is normal and how is it to be categorised? Julius Caesar was a homo***ual, Alexander the Great was a homo***ual. So no, they certainly were not part of the norm. I feel on safe ground ins saying most of the most extraordinary things in history have been achieved by people who were not part of the "norm".

    The fact that we can communicate directly, almost instantaneously in this manner, using these machines is the direct result of a genius who was homo***ual. No, he certainly wasn't part of the "norm". Luckily for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roymit View Post
    Dear Al, I don't understand what you mean when you say "Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride, especially our younger generation - most would say - not!"

    So are we to believe that it is only the majority view that matters on a subject such as ***ual orientation, even when you have absolutely no basis for such a statement? How do you know "most would say not". What I know is that when posters use words like "perversion" about people's behaviour because they dislike it or are uncomfortable with the idea of it then such a subject is is no longer in debate but the beginning of prejudice and intolerance. Let's have no more talk of not caring about gays and then instantly stating that it's not the norm. What the hell is the norm? Who is normal and how is it to be categorised? Julius Caesar was a homo***ual, Alexander the Great was a homo***ual. So no, they certainly were not part of the norm. I feel on safe ground ins saying most of the most extraordinary things in history have been achieved by people who were not part of the "norm".

    The fact that we can communicate directly, almost instantaneously in this manner, using these machines is the direct result of a genius who was homo***ual. No, he certainly wasn't part of the "norm". Luckily for us.

    Dear Roymit - perhaps you ought to take this up with the poster in a debate who used the words - perversion etc! I have no issue personally with anybody of whatever ***ual orientation if you read the thread correctly.

    I do have an issue though with things such as Brighton Pride but that is my view. Should everyone who is straight, ginger, likes many partners have similar marches? Should Police try and appease these marchers by blending in with pastel coloured face paint etc? Who pays for these marches?

    The country is a mess because of the do gooders and love him or hate him, there is now a debate on what Boris said which is not at all racist in any way. Pathetic me thinks!

    Love or hate Brexit - the country should now concentrate on getting the best deals and those who voted to remain including many in my own family should accept a majority vote is democracy and you can't have a revote. I would love a rematch against Forest for the weak and pathetic display of some of our players but a result is a result.

    Have a great day!

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    Dear al, I'm more than happy to let the matter drop and I was aware it was not you who used the word. I understand and share your passion for the baggies and appreciate it comes from a deep sense of commitment. Which I like. That said ...

    I don't know why you introduce "do-gooders" into this disagreement that we have, but I would guess you mean left-wing liberals.

    I don't know why you bring Brexit into this debate, I don't know what that has to do with Gay Pride. Or Boris. But if it's as an advert or defender of ***ual ethics I think "most people" would agree he's hardly your best choice.

    And finally, "does the country needing to see things like Gay Pride?" still seems to me to suggest that you do have a problem with homo***uality. Why or how does a march of gays threaten this country? With what? Conversion of an essentially straight nation into hordes of gay men and women marching here, there and everywhere, mostly in pink? Perish the thought!

    You don't like "us" having to pay for the cost of policing. Fine I get that. People who don't like football are probably fed up that most football clubs don't pay their share of policing but it;'s part of the price we pay for democracy that we have to pay for things we don't like. I find I can live with that.

    Darren Moore with no plan A or B, no right back, no creative midfielder, no decent foil for Dwight Gayle and Dawson (even if you think he should go) our best defender, not in the team. That really pisses me off.

    Alan Turing would never have let this situation arise I promise you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roymit View Post
    Dear al, I'm more than happy to let the matter drop and I was aware it was not you who used the word. I understand and share your passion for the baggies and appreciate it comes from a deep sense of commitment. Which I like. That said ...

    I don't know why you introduce "do-gooders" into this disagreement that we have, but I would guess you mean left-wing liberals.

    I don't know why you bring Brexit into this debate, I don't know what that has to do with Gay Pride. Or Boris. But if it's as an advert or defender of ***ual ethics I think "most people" would agree he's hardly your best choice.

    And finally, "does the country needing to see things like Gay Pride?" still seems to me to suggest that you do have a problem with homo***uality. Why or how does a march of gays threaten this country? With what? Conversion of an essentially straight nation into hordes of gay men and women marching here, there and everywhere, mostly in pink? Perish the thought!

    You don't like "us" having to pay for the cost of policing. Fine I get that. People who don't like football are probably fed up that most football clubs don't pay their share of policing but it;'s part of the price we pay for democracy that we have to pay for things we don't like. I find I can live with that.

    Darren Moore with no plan A or B, no right back, no creative midfielder, no decent foil for Dwight Gayle and Dawson (even if you think he should go) our best defender, not in the team. That really pisses me off.

    Alan Turing would never have let this situation arise I promise you.

    I have no problem with anyone of any ***ual orientation - this includes some guys who may have three wives. As one poster has commented - the norm of a loving marriage is between a male and female and until a child is an adult, kids should not be taught any difference. I certainly would not want my young child to be listening to love within a same *** marriage or having Brighton Pride on view, but what choices they make when they are an adult is down to them.

    Another poster did point out that two people within a same *** relationship is not the norm! I would agree, but it's not wrong to be anything but the norm, but it's not the norm and should be under wraps from impressionable kids who could copy/try it out.

    Big Dave will get it right and did not Mr Jenkins not go on record promising a strong budget? Perhaps it will come before Thursday but then again, the recruitment cash could be wrapped in a pink ribbon and delivered to the Hawthorns!

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