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    Quote Originally Posted by champs95 View Post
    Are you saying no white people have commited atrocities?
    Lets have a think and see if there have been any high profile cases?

    Your vote (alongside the other racist fkn idiots who read the Sun and the Mail) put us our of Europe aswell didn't it, you absolute fkn cretin.
    Totally ignores what was written.
    Islam is a problem. Nothing to do with race.
    It is a vile religion that promotes through manipulation, the status of
    Womens rights status
    Homo***uality
    Freedom of choice
    Respect for the laws of men.

    So going back, the article refers to the situation Blackburn of a town living two separate existences.
    One half follows European values, the other middle east Islam.
    Yet to complain and point out the problems this brings is "racist". Not that I care what you call it, it doesn't intimidate me.
    Islam is not a race!!!!!!!!!!
    It's an ideology that manipulates the weak minded.

    So where did I ever say, that white people don't commit *** crimes?
    They do. But they don't target one particular group of people. Nor do they do it under the guise of what their holy books tells them is ok.
    All of these ***ual animals should have the full weight of the law against them. Yet there is a sinister attempt to cover up Islam crimes.
    In effect. there is no integration.
    That is down to one thing. Guess what it is?
    Think I hit a nerve with the EU jibe coming in to it. 18.2 Million racists it is then.
    Obviously a Corbyn disciple and simple minded.
    Perhaps you should try Venezuela, Corbyn says its great. Palestine protest and stone a few Jews?

    In effect, change the ****ing record snowflake, it doesn't intimidate anyone.

    *nb, I was reasonable on my original post, until I saw what a 2 faced tw@t you was, with what you wrote on your site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Totally ignores what was written.
    Islam is a problem. Nothing to do with race.
    It is a vile religion that promotes through manipulation, the status of
    Womens rights status
    Homo***uality
    Freedom of choice
    Respect for the laws of men.

    So going back, the article refers to the situation Blackburn of a town living two separate existences.
    One half follows European values, the other middle east Islam.
    Yet to complain and point out the problems this brings is "racist". Not that I care what you call it, it doesn't intimidate me.
    Islam is not a race!!!!!!!!!!
    It's an ideology that manipulates the weak minded.

    .
    I have to disagree with most of it.
    Yes they have some 'quirky' edicts, but remember what's quirky to us, is not to them.
    And basically you can say the same to a host of other religions.
    Even our own. The Old Testament has lots of rules and acts which would be frowned upon today.
    But we have Jesus to thank in making life much simpler through the New Testaments.
    However there are still a host of intolerant "Christians' today, especially in Trump's America.

    But let's talk Islam. I think calling it vile is unfair, there are lots of good things in the Koran (yes you're right, both spellings Quran or Koran is acceptable). It's however a few verses taken in a narrow reading by an ultra- conservative hard-line based mainly or from Wahabbi Arabia that's the cause for issues afflicting the religion. Look up Taj Hargey and what he says correctly about the problems caused by these groups.

    Unfortunately, that these people are able to rise to the forefront and spread the hate is also due in part to what the Westerners have done over the years. You will remember there wasn't any real issues with 'Islamic terrorism' until say the early 50s, it went up several notches in the 70s and 80s and since the 90s it has been THE major problem security wise the world over.
    But what caused it? It emanates from Western govts especially the USA.
    Britain is also chiefly responsible, how could they simply conquer and divide and then leave the Palestine without giving the Arab population a homeland? The French also did a lot of damage in the North African countries. But the real problem, is the undivided support that Israel gets from its Western Allies especially the USA.
    What they are doing in Palestine is akin to apartheid. No I'm not anti-Semitic, I like Israel a lot and respect it.
    But look what they are doing. Eg: if a son or daughter committed an act of violence, the whole family home is destroyed. Why can't they give Palestine the land and country they desire?

    This is the primary issue - solve the Palestinian issue and most of the fundamentalists are starved of oxygen. We can also cite American adventurism in Arabian countries as the other main factor. All the problems today find their source primarily from these 2 issues. Israel for refusing to bend and America which supports certain govts against others.

    I interact with a lot of Muslims out here, and there's no real issue. The Islam they follow is normal just like any other religion.
    Sure Islamic laws forbid homo***uality but so does other religions. As for the rights of women, if they (the women) are happy with them, who are we to decry it? But even in these countries, Islamic law can live with secular laws. Nobody forces them to do anything, except ***ual misconduct. There was recently a big hoo-ha in Malaysia when a 41 year old married an 11 year old, many Muslims decried it and this practise is now in the process of being outlawed.

    The point I'm making is that generally Islam isn't vile, it's the narrow reading of certain verses and a convenient interpretation that some tiny groups have manipulated for their own benefit. I think there's little fear in walking or even living in certain English cities with a Muslim enclave. 90% wouldn't even be bothered about what the English do. Unfortunately that 5-10% have been hijacking certain issues and thus creating an us versus them mentality. Target these people not the whole community.

    I think I've written about this before, you have to control the mosque in order to control the narrative. The UK has allowed these Wahabbis and other extreme Arabs to build mosques, schools and do what they like. This has to stop. In Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey and some other countries, this is not allowed. Even if they give funds to build, the state religious body in tandem with the Govt decides the narrative.

    In essence, you have to solve the Palestinian issue, stop meddling and taking sides in the Middle East and control the narrative and eventually things will return to what it was before all these started from the 50s.

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