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I've seen the paperwork and I've seen the videos that the police showed the licensing authorities when they were demanding that it was to be shut down - scary videos by the way - and I can assure you it's true. Significant crush and trampling issues were highlighted and the potential for serious injury or even worse was there. The man you're whinging about, along with John Nelms, bent over backwards to find, propose and implement a solution that the police and licensing committee would accept. It cost a lot of money to do the work required at that time and to be honest I'd rather that money had been spent re-opening the Derry stairs but what would have been the point if the place was being closed down?

The Stadium Manager relates to safety, he doesn't have to relate to young lads he just has to keep them safe whilst in the stadium.

I agree the soul of the club is dying, but that's down to the ****e being served up on the park as much as any area being singled out and sanitised.

A lot of work would need to be done to re-open the uncovered area. What would happen if it absolutely pi55ed it down in a game? If I remember correctly the people who liked to stand there back in the day (I loved it in the summer) used to go under cover when it rained. That wouldn't be possible now with match and season tickets having allocated seats.

'We are a rough city with guys who like a beer. a shout at the football and a laugh with our mates'. Disagree mostly with that, we're a city trying to pull itself into this century and whilst I agree you're absolutely right that there are some that fit neatly into your stereotype there are many, many more that don't. The club needs to cater for all types of people and for me it would be wrong to have a 'guys who like a beer. a shout at the football and a laugh with our mates' only area. Would you also have an area set aside specifically for tee totallers who like a shout at the football and a laugh with their mates? Where does it end?

Have you ever been in a crush situation Deeranged?

I have but i haven't seen it happening in the Derry.

The most respected and Nelms may have bent over backwards to please the police and council but let the support down.

They shud be very much in touch with our younger fans, they arnae and never will be.

Every other club encourages a noisey younger support, not us we stick a polis block next to them then harass them into and out the stadium till they just think **** this and don't come back.

The most respected is good for virtue signalling but clean, tidy, safe stadium with a passionate atmosphere?.....move along **** all to see here.

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Have you ever been in a crush situation Deeranged?

I have but i haven't seen it happening in the Derry.

The most respected and Nelms may have bent over backwards to please the police and council but let the support down.

They shud be very much in touch with our younger fans, they arnae and never will be.

Every other club encourages a noisey younger support, not us we stick a polis block next to them then harass them into and out the stadium till they just think **** this and don't come back.

The most respected is good for virtue signalling but clean, tidy, safe stadium with a passionate atmosphere?.....move along **** all to see here.

Same as you, I've been in crushes but never in The Derry. The old Provie exit was great for it, as a bairn you just lifted your legs and got carried along by the crowd. Safe? Nope. We live in a H&S age that encourages people to sue over the slightest breach. Club needs to assess the risk and reduce it to ALARP. I sat in The Coxy on the night of the DAB game where the crowd surged toward the DAB fans when we scored, looked awesome but found out people were injured / trampled during the surges so there has been incidents in The Derry.

They didn't 'please' the police and council they addressed legitimate police safety concerns that the council were asked to look at.

They let the fans down by doing what they needed to do in order to keep The Derry open and make sure the fans had their favourite place to sit? Pair o' *******s eh?

To be fair the areas that some clubs have specifically set aside for younger, noisier fans tend to be minters, look at the fermers and Motherwell areas; DABs tried it too, realised it was a minter and pulled the plug.

Parts of Dens are a tip no denying that, unfortunately the place just is not up to the H&S requirements of a modern football stadium.