Originally Posted by
rolymiller
You criticise Naked Frog yet you do not criticise IBS who does not even give an opinion on the matter and he started the thread. At best he just nods sagely in agreement with Monty and kerr. Can you tell me what his opinion is on the matter because i aint a clue!
Lets examine his best effort at an opinion.
Totally agree monty.
It suits Israel down to the ground to an conflate anti Israeli-government stance with anti-semitism.
By the way it's a tactic the left also use. Witness the threads on this message board. You know you have scored a point when the only reply is 'you are a racist, you are a bigot", without any reasoned argument to back that up.
I remember playing top trumps as a kid.....the race card in this day and age....is the one to silence all criticism and quash any real debate. It's a shame because as an ex- Marxist, I still believe in the dialectic approach to argument. Two conflicting theories will eventually produce a higher stage of reasoning....sadly many issues will never progress beyond the current stagnation because they don't want a debate
The only thing I can make from this is that he agrees with Monty and later on Kerr but I don't know why because he doesn't say why. Its interesting in the end that the right wing Kerr floats his boat though. Note he doesn't come out on the side of pup or wanchai who put a counter view though he applauds them for a valiant effort.
Some have criticised me for putting the yawn sign up early on but to me this has still been a predictable thread with the same right wing protagonists pouring out long paragraphs of unsubstantiated rubbish.
What have we learned then? Nowt much, This is basically an anti corbyn/ anti left thread the vehicle for it being the debate about anti semitism in the labour party.
Its a loaded thread and quite deliberate and while i appreciate the efforts of wanchai and Pup to put in counter arguments i would argue they really shouldn't give the time of day to the likes of IBS.
He manages early on to make a snide remark about the "race card" here and I wonder if that is the real agenda here to stir up a racist argument, He can't do it openly because he is smart enough to know he's been hauled over the coals for recycling these kinds of arguments before.
When IBS starts a thread and puts in his view before he hides behind views of others I will be happy to counter his argument. I suspect the reason why he doesn't is because he is not capable of forming an argument because he knows he would lose it with out his right wing backers.
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