OT: What a pillock

[legs77]

You may not like her and her dance was pure cringe but maybe just maybe she was mocking herself end of the day it doesn't really matter does it ?!

As for Brexit lets just wait and see what happens you know about as much as everyone else which in reality is not much.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

You may not like her and her dance was pure cringe but maybe just maybe she was mocking herself end of the day it doesn't really matter does it ?!

As for Brexit lets just wait and see what happens you know about as much as everyone else which in reality is not much.

Corrrct. There is too much doom and gloom and scaremongering going off which I do not think is in the spirit of democracy and is disresepectful to the vote of the British people. This is a concern regardless of whether people voted leave or remain.

I respect Teresa May more than many politicians because whilst she was on the side of remain she has respected the vote of the British people and at least is trying to implement the vote which was to leave the EU. Whether it’s the right deal or not we don’t yet know and that can and should be debated, discusssd and agreed in parliament.

It should not be finalised at the ballot box, which is what those politicians who do not respect the outcome of the vote that the people they serve made want to happen to try and reverse the decison to get their own way.

[magpie_mania]

Corrrct. There is too much doom and gloom and scaremongering going off which I do not think is in the spirit of democracy and is disresepectful to the vote of the British people. This is a concern regardless of whether people voted leave or remain.

I respect Teresa May more than many politicians because whilst she was on the side of remain she has respected the vote of the British people and at least is trying to implement the vote which was to leave the EU. Whether it’s the right deal or not we don’t yet know and that can and should be debated, discusssd and agreed in parliament.

It should not be finalised at the ballot box, which is what those politicians who do not respect the outcome of the vote that the people they serve made want to happen to try and reverse the decison to get their own way.

'There is too much doom and gloom and scaremongering going off'

This is a genuine question. Suppose those being accused of 'scaremongering' are right. They are in high positions - wouldn't it be irresponsible of them to just keep quiet and say nothing if they genuinely believe that bad things will happen?

I wanted to remain, but respect the vote and now want us out asap. However, I do get fed up that whenever anyone says anything at all which is slightly negative they are accused of scaremongering.

I've said it before - why are the Brexiters so worried about another vote? (not that I think there should be one). After all, Brexit is going to be the best thing ever - so surely all those who voted leave will do so again, along with all the 'leavers' who have now seen the light.

[seriouspie]

'There is too much doom and gloom and scaremongering going off'

This is a genuine question. Suppose those being accused of 'scaremongering' are right. They are in high positions - wouldn't it be irresponsible of them to just keep quiet and say nothing if they genuinely believe that bad things will happen?

I wanted to remain, but respect the vote and now want us out asap. However, I do get fed up that whenever anyone says anything at all which is slightly negative they are accused of scaremongering.

I've said it before - why are the Brexiters so worried about another vote? (not that I think there should be one). After all, Brexit is going to be the best thing ever - so surely all those who voted leave will do so again, along with all the 'leavers' who have now seen the light.

And also the Remainers who have seen the light?

[magpie_mania]

And also the Remainers who have seen the light?

Sorry - yes of course!

[drillerpie]

The way I see Brexit is like when a football team is under performing and some fans suggest ripping it all up and starting again, bringing in an old school disciplinarian as new manager, public *******ings and days off cancelled. In other words simple solutions to what is probably a complicated problem, which rarely works but feels good as a way of letting off steam.

Then when it actually gets worse, people disassociate themselves from the choices they supported and blame the chairman for listening to them in the first place.

That is exactly what I expect to happen with Brexit.

I think right now we're at the beginning of the Paul Ince phase, where everything still seems possible, but actually five straight defeats then Carl Heggs are looming on the horizon.

[jackal2]

The way I see Brexit is like when a football team is under performing and some fans suggest ripping it all up and starting again, bringing in an old school disciplinarian as new manager, public *******ings and days off cancelled. In other words simple solutions to what is probably a complicated problem, which rarely works but feels good as a way of letting off steam.

Then when it actually gets worse, people disassociate themselves from the choices they supported and blame the chairman for listening to them in the first place.

That is exactly what I expect to happen with Brexit.

I think right now we're at the beginning of the Paul Ince phase, where everything still seems possible, but actually five straight defeats then Carl Heggs are looming on the horizon.

Nice analogy, but actually I think it will be more like the Sam Allardyce experience. A very difficult beginning which will take longer than expected to fight through and will leave some doubting the appointment/decision, but when the lead weight of relegation (or in this case, Europe) is finally shaken off, we'll be on our way to the economic equivalent of the league title.

[legs77]

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I've said it before - why are the Brexiters so worried about another vote? (not that I think there should be one). After all, Brexit is going to be the best thing ever - so surely all those who voted leave will do so again, along with all the 'leavers' who have now seen the light.

I would guess the answer to that question is the result would be different and it sets a very dangerous precedent.

In my opinion the public were not qualified to deal with something of this magnitude as the more you hear about Brexit the more confusing it gets !

[OP67]

I would guess the answer to that question is the result would be different and it sets a very dangerous precedent.

In my opinion the public were not qualified to deal with something of this magnitude as the more you hear about Brexit the more confusing it gets !

Best of 3 I say What if the another referendum was 52/48 in favour of remain??? Also is we decided to remain we'd get an even worse deal than we had before we decided to leave. Do people really think we'd just carry on as if nothing happened??

I voted leave and would vote the same again.

[Trickytreesreds]

I would guess the answer to that question is the result would be different and it sets a very dangerous precedent.

In my opinion the public were not qualified to deal with something of this magnitude as the more you hear about Brexit the more confusing it gets !

It's very hard to trust anything a politician says, regarding staying in the EU. The public have been lied to for over 40 years and truth buried whilst the UK became entwined in the web of globalization.
In all this time, we had one vote about remaining in the EU and no facts/truths were passed on to the public then. In fact they were buried by the elite and we have been treated like mushrooms ever since.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...British-public

So is it any surprise, that now the public has lashed out, these same people are spitting out any old drivel to continue scaring you?
Doom and gloom goes both ways. The EU utopia isn't looking so wonderful either.