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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Okay Gunteryy, I thought I’d been really clear but apparently not, so I’ll try once more.
    At 3.32 on 7/11/18 as part of your attempted defence of Trump you stated, ‘ there’s no such thing as Islamophobia’ and therefore ‘no defence can be offered’.
    No one other than you had actually mentioned the term before but we’ll let that pass.

    When I challenged your dismissal of the term you asked for a definition.
    I provided one which you appear not to have agreed with at which point you started banging on about Humpty Dumpty and Ronaldo...I’m not entirely sure why.
    My point, very simply is...if you can look up a word/term...using Google or the Oxford English Dictionary to name but two reliable sources, and find a clear definition...then the odds are that it exists.

    As regards your second statement suggesting that the ‘gory details’ of the Quran will not allow for ‘moderate Muslims’. I should make clear that personally I have little time for any organised religion and think the World would probably be better off without any of them.
    I do however find it curious that you should identify the Quran alone when it is equally easy to find passages in the Bible that can easily be interpreted as advocating everything from genocide to slavery and overt ***ism to filicide.
    Only the extremists amongst all sides take these texts literally any more and it is they we should all be concentrating our efforts on rather than adopting the policy of divisiveness you appear to support.
    Okay, RamAnag, I'll keep it simple too. Whatever definitions the OED offers, the meaning of a word resides in the context in which it appears. There is no meaning per se. And words like 'Islamophobia', 'hate speech', 'hate crime' are much too vague to have a definition other than to stifle criticism of Islam. You mind your ps and qs when talking of Islam otherwise you'll be in hot water. Blasphemy law is just around the corner.

    I focus on Islam for the simple reason that as I understand it, the NT advocates something resembling peace and love and all that stuff whereas the Quran unambiguously mandates the genocide of non-believers.

    I agree the world would be better off without organised religion. Sadly, it's not going to happen.
    Last edited by GUNTERYY36; 10-11-2018 at 11:45 AM.

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