O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[rolymiller]

Well i'd go to bed now now Kerr's back but I'm afraid I might have nightmares about Jeremy Corbyn's torture chambers and union members who eat people alive...god this is gonna be worse than the living dead movies.

I shall check under me bed to see if there is a red under it and sleep with a big picture of Maggie at the side of me bed to scare all these evil socialist spirits away..

Wish me luck..nighty night.

[KerrAvon]

I don't know whether Corbyn would have torture chambers and doubt whether Trade Unionists eat people alive (the chap from the GMB who spoke after me at a conference on Monday ate from the same lunchtime buffet as me, as did the FBU delegate).

What we do know is:

He will raise corporate tax rates making the UK a less attractive place to do business, employ people and pay taxes.

He will seize 10% of every decent sized public company making the UK a less attractive place to do business, employ people and pay taxes and destroying pension fund values.

He will unfetter the unions, putting us as at risk of the re-emergence of the closed shop protection racket and the job destroying militancy of the seventies.

He will spend vast amounts of public money on ideologically driven nationalisations.

Insofar as it is possible to tell, he will enter into a deal with the EU that allows freedom of movement to continue, which is a betrayal of what many people voted for in 2016.

These are the things you should be concerned about, but it shouldn't bother your sleep as the electorate will, hopefully, not allow it to come to pass, just as they didn't in 2017.

P.s. you need to check out how often you are name checking me in posts. You are becoming almost as obsessed as Exile.

[ragingpup]

I don't know whether Corbyn would have torture chambers and doubt whether Trade Unionists eat people alive (the chap from the GMB who spoke after me at a conference on Monday ate from the same lunchtime buffet as me, as did the FBU delegate).

What we do know is:

He will raise corporate tax rates making the UK a less attractive place to do business, employ people and pay taxes.

He will seize 10% of every decent sized public company making the UK a less attractive place to do business, employ people and pay taxes and destroying pension fund values.

He will unfetter the unions, putting us as at risk of the re-emergence of the closed shop protection racket and the job destroying militancy of the seventies.

He will spend vast amounts of public money on ideologically driven nationalisations.

Insofar as it is possible to tell, he will enter into a deal with the EU that allows freedom of movement to continue, which is a betrayal of what many people voted for in 2016.

These are the things you should be concerned about, but it shouldn't bother your sleep as the electorate will, hopefully, not allow it to come to pass, just as they didn't in 2017.

P.s. you need to check out how often you are name checking me in posts. You are becoming almost as obsessed as Exile.

Ok - another statement of what you're against.

So, going forward (I'm feeling optimistic, it's Friday!)

1. What evidence based policies would you support that would might address the social issues which we all agree are there? Do you accept all/parts of the recent UN report on UK poverty? If so, what would you like our politicians to actually DO about it (as opposed to not do).

2. As a professed non Labour/Conservative voter, which party have you previously supported to try and steer the country in the direction you would have liked to have seen?

3. Moving forward, which political party do you think is closest to the policies you would like to see, the party that at the moment is most likely to get your vote? What specifically do you like about their active policies that gets your vote?


We've all had the courage to nail our colours to the mast and allowed them to be dissected. Now you have a go. We'll be gentle....

[KerrAvon]

When have I said I'm a non Labour voter? Hell, I voted for them in 1983 - the last time they were run by someone who was hopelessly misguided. If there was a get together for people who did that, the organisers would only need to book an upstairs room in a pub.

I wonder if Roly will be along to plagiarise your questions.

[ragingpup]

When have I said I'm a non Labour voter? Hell, I voted for them in 1983 - the last time they were run by someone who was hopelessly misguided. If there was a get together for people who did that, the organisers would only need to book an upstairs room in a pub.

I wonder if Roly will be along to plagiarise your questions.

I wonder if you're able to answer my questions?

[rolymiller]

P.s. you need to check out how often you are name checking me in posts. You are becoming almost as obsessed as Exile.

...and yet in your next post you name check me...


I wonder if Roly will be along to plagiarise your questions.

Which brings me on to summat else actually...why do you think that posters on here need to plagiarise questions of others. to you..could it be because you never answer them?

[Timbertop]

The media's Project Fear is back in full swing bigging up Mark Carney's "no deal " speech as a forecast of economic disaster but failing to tell us this was his WORST CASE scenario appraisal. Unfortunately these scare tactics are beginning to influence people. When Tory grandees like Ken Clarke are now supporting May's deal we should be worried. Come on Mr Corbyn and get behind what most Labour supporters voted for in the referendum. Can't see how remaining as EU lapdogs will help his political aspirations.

[ragingpup]

Pasted below comedian Mike Harding's reply to Mrs May's letter to the nation:


Dear Mrs May

I am in France having a break having come here on the train all the way from Settle. I just read your letter to me and the rest of Britain wanting us all to unite behind the damp squib you call a deal. Unite? I laughed so much the mouthful of frogs legs I was eating ended up dancing all over the bald head of the bloke on the opposite table.

Your party’s little civil war has divided this country irreparably. The last time this happened Cromwell discontinued the custom of kings wearing their heads on their shoulders.

I had a mother who was of Irish descent, an English father who lies in a Dutch graveyard in the village where his Lancaster bomber fell in flames. I had a Polish stepfather who drove a tank for us in WW2 and I have two half Polish sisters and a half Polish brother who is married to a girl from Donegal.

My two uncles of Irish descent fought for Britain in N Africa and in Burma.

So far you have called us Citizens Of Nowhere and Queue Jumpers. You have now taken away our children and grandchildren’s freedom to travel, settle, live and work in mainland Europe.

You have made this country a vicious and much diminished place. You as Home Sec sent a van round telling foreigners to go home. You said “ illegal” but that was *******s as the legally here people of the Windrush generation soon discovered.

Your party has sold off our railways, water, electricity, gas, telecoms, Royal Mail etc until all we have left is the NHS and that is lined up for the US to have as soon as Hannon and Hunt can arrange it.

You have lied to the people of this country. You voted Remain yet changed your tune when the chance to grab the job of PM came. You should have sacked those lying *******s Gove and Bojo but daren’t because you haven’t the actual power.

You have no answer to the British border on the island of Ireland nor do you know how the Gib border with Spain will work once we are out.

Mrs May you have helped to divide this country to such an extent that families and friends are now no longer talking to each other, you have managed to negotiate a deal far worse than the one we had and all to keep together a party of millionaires, Eton Bullingdon boys, spivs and WI harridans. Your party conserves nothing. It has sold everything off in the name of the free market.

You could have kept our industries going with investment and development – Germany managed it. But no – The Free Market won so Sunderland, Barnsley, Hamilton etc could all go to the devil.

So Mrs May my answer to your plea for unity is firstly that it is ridiculous.

48% of us will never forgive you for Brexit and secondly, of the 52% that voted for it many will not forgive you for not giving them what your lying comrades like Rees Mogg and Fox promised them.

There are no unicorns, there is no £350 million extra for the NHS. The economy will tank and there will be less taxes to help out the poor. We have 350,000 homeless (not rough sleepers – homeless) in one of the richest countries on Earth and you are about to increase that number with your damn fool Brexit.

The bald man has wiped the frogs legs of his head, I’ve bought him a glass of wine to say sorry; I’m typing this with one finger on my phone in France and I’m tired now and want to stop before my finger gets too tired to join the other one in a sailors salute to you and your squalid Brexit, your shabby xenophobia and Little Englander mentality.

Two fingers to you and your unity from this proud citizen of nowhere. I and roughly half the country will never forgive you or your party.

[millmoormagic]

Pasted below comedian Mike Harding's reply to Mrs May's letter to the nation:


Dear Mrs May

I am in France having a break having come here on the train all the way from Settle. I just read your letter to me and the rest of Britain wanting us all to unite behind the damp squib you call a deal. Unite? I laughed so much the mouthful of frogs legs I was eating ended up dancing all over the bald head of the bloke on the opposite table.

Your party’s little civil war has divided this country irreparably. The last time this happened Cromwell discontinued the custom of kings wearing their heads on their shoulders.

I had a mother who was of Irish descent, an English father who lies in a Dutch graveyard in the village where his Lancaster bomber fell in flames. I had a Polish stepfather who drove a tank for us in WW2 and I have two half Polish sisters and a half Polish brother who is married to a girl from Donegal.

My two uncles of Irish descent fought for Britain in N Africa and in Burma.

So far you have called us Citizens Of Nowhere and Queue Jumpers. You have now taken away our children and grandchildren’s freedom to travel, settle, live and work in mainland Europe.

You have made this country a vicious and much diminished place. You as Home Sec sent a van round telling foreigners to go home. You said “ illegal” but that was *******s as the legally here people of the Windrush generation soon discovered.

Your party has sold off our railways, water, electricity, gas, telecoms, Royal Mail etc until all we have left is the NHS and that is lined up for the US to have as soon as Hannon and Hunt can arrange it.

You have lied to the people of this country. You voted Remain yet changed your tune when the chance to grab the job of PM came. You should have sacked those lying *******s Gove and Bojo but daren’t because you haven’t the actual power.

You have no answer to the British border on the island of Ireland nor do you know how the Gib border with Spain will work once we are out.

Mrs May you have helped to divide this country to such an extent that families and friends are now no longer talking to each other, you have managed to negotiate a deal far worse than the one we had and all to keep together a party of millionaires, Eton Bullingdon boys, spivs and WI harridans. Your party conserves nothing. It has sold everything off in the name of the free market.

You could have kept our industries going with investment and development – Germany managed it. But no – The Free Market won so Sunderland, Barnsley, Hamilton etc could all go to the devil.

So Mrs May my answer to your plea for unity is firstly that it is ridiculous.

48% of us will never forgive you for Brexit and secondly, of the 52% that voted for it many will not forgive you for not giving them what your lying comrades like Rees Mogg and Fox promised them.

There are no unicorns, there is no £350 million extra for the NHS. The economy will tank and there will be less taxes to help out the poor. We have 350,000 homeless (not rough sleepers – homeless) in one of the richest countries on Earth and you are about to increase that number with your damn fool Brexit.

The bald man has wiped the frogs legs of his head, I’ve bought him a glass of wine to say sorry; I’m typing this with one finger on my phone in France and I’m tired now and want to stop before my finger gets too tired to join the other one in a sailors salute to you and your squalid Brexit, your shabby xenophobia and Little Englander mentality.

Two fingers to you and your unity from this proud citizen of nowhere. I and roughly half the country will never forgive you or your party.

Fantastic that, and very very true

[KerrAvon]

Are neither of you two Labour lads going to have the courtesy to reply to Timbertop, given that he is clearly operating under the misapprehension that your party would deliver Brexit, as voted for in the Referendum?