Thanks everyone, I think I have it sussed now after tearing my hair out, started again with wiping the hard disc, its source was on the SD card which was not even plugged in, so eventually found it on the menu (Stupid Menu should be better) and reverted back to the hard drive, a third of the way through ripping now and will be happy when I've finished again, no bleeding flash drive being plugged in again

I hear what you are saying Pinoy (and thanks) but I have not had any problems caused by the actual machine as they was caused by myself being a luddite, there may be a few snags with the machine with some people which is a shame as its a good machine once sussed out and the sound is very good, it would be wasted on alf and BT