Quote Originally Posted by grantzer View Post
Clearing up the hoses won't make a difference. The hoses are a symptom of the general malaise around dens. If the place is a mess it's because nobody cares enough to clean it up. If nobody has any pride behind the scenes,how easy is it for the players to pick up on that,and get the same feeling?

How easy is it for the fans to stop caring?

If you email the club and get no response,how many times does that happen before you stop trying?

I think we have some of the best fans in the country,and a club that does not deserve them.
Star post and exactly how the hoses have become important.