Graeme Shinnie

[afc1903mad]

Lucky if there would be 10000 at games if we sell/lose our best players & replace them with inferior players.
That’s a downward spiral.

We are not Man City, we cannot buy replacements players that are superior to the players that have left because we cannot afford to pay them what they can get elsewhere.

Its not necessarily a downward spiral, its essentially cyclical.

Aberdeen need to be a selling club. We should be buying young / developing and selling on with a plan for the next development player.
Connor McLennan to GMS would be a good example of having someone in line to replace the leaving player.
If we were to make money from the sale whilst having someone ready to step in, that would be the ideal scenario I presume.
Would anyone argue against McLennan getting GMS's spot when he leaves.

Same with McKenna. if we sold for £6M, £7M, £8M or whatever, were not going to go out and replace with better and have development potential.
Yes, you could argue we could get an older, more experienced defender that could fill his shoes adequately, but lack the sell-on factor.
If we replaced with a player (Devlin-esque) who can improve the team and develop into an international that we can then sell on, that needs to be our model.

The revenues should then be available for improving the development, in a number of ways.
It would take time, but thas got to be the best way to grow Aberdeen and be more successful on and off the pitch.

[Aldo1983]

We are not Man City, we cannot buy replacements players that are superior to the players that have left because we cannot afford to pay them what they can get elsewhere.

Its not necessarily a downward spiral, its essentially cyclical.

Aberdeen need to be a selling club. We should be buying young / developing and selling on with a plan for the next development player.
Connor McLennan to GMS would be a good example of having someone in line to replace the leaving player.
If we were to make money from the sale whilst having someone ready to step in, that would be the ideal scenario I presume.
Would anyone argue against McLennan getting GMS's spot when he leaves.

Same with McKenna. if we sold for £6M, £7M, £8M or whatever, were not going to go out and replace with better and have development potential.
Yes, you could argue we could get an older, more experienced defender that could fill his shoes adequately, but lack the sell-on factor.
If we replaced with a player (Devlin-esque) who can improve the team and develop into an international that we can then sell on, that needs to be our model.

The revenues should then be available for improving the development, in a number of ways.
It would take time, but thas got to be the best way to grow Aberdeen and be more successful on and off the pitch.

So how do you improve the development?

[rico94]

We are not Man City, we cannot buy replacements players that are superior to the players that have left because we cannot afford to pay them what they can get elsewhere.

Its not necessarily a downward spiral, its essentially cyclical.

Aberdeen need to be a selling club. We should be buying young / developing and selling on with a plan for the next development player.
Connor McLennan to GMS would be a good example of having someone in line to replace the leaving player.
If we were to make money from the sale whilst having someone ready to step in, that would be the ideal scenario I presume.
Would anyone argue against McLennan getting GMS's spot when he leaves.

Same with McKenna. if we sold for £6M, £7M, £8M or whatever, were not going to go out and replace with better and have development potential.
Yes, you could argue we could get an older, more experienced defender that could fill his shoes adequately, but lack the sell-on factor.
If we replaced with a player (Devlin-esque) who can improve the team and develop into an international that we can then sell on, that needs to be our model.

The revenues should then be available for improving the development, in a number of ways.
It would take time, but thas got to be the best way to grow Aberdeen and be more successful on and off the pitch.

If we do sell McKenna for around £7 million what exactly happens to all of that money?

I’m not saying we should be spending the entire £7 million on players for the squad but if there was a young player we could buy for say £750k we should definitely be doing that if we have that kind of money.

I don’t think we will though.

[afc1903mad]

So how do you improve the development?

A blend of things.
Training facilities will be one for sure, but if we were to reinvest the money towards upcoming young players that would command a fee in the future, thats another.
We could also expand our youth scouting and development centres set-up to reach a wider base, hell, even encroach into foreign areas youth (Iceland, Finland etc)

If we do sell McKenna for around £7 million what exactly happens to all of that money?

I’m not saying we should be spending the entire £7 million on players for the squad but if there was a young player we could buy for say £750k we should definitely be doing that if we have that kind of money.

I don’t think we will though.

I said similarly before, although I think £750k might be starting to stretch it as invariably it would also start to impact our wage base.
But yes, reinvest £500k in an immediate replacement, with £500k on say two youngsters (like Ferguson or McLean) that could be developed.
Funds could also be used to establish better contracts for our youngsters such that we hold on to them for longer should we opt to.

[Aldo1983]

A blend of things.
Training facilities will be one for sure, but if we were to reinvest the money towards upcoming young players that would command a fee in the future, thats another.
We could also expand our youth scouting and development centres set-up to reach a wider base, hell, even encroach into foreign areas youth (Iceland, Finland etc)

It's not money that makes it work.

Youth development should always be a priority but it doesn't guarantee we will "grow".

Sounds like an excuse Milne would come out with for building a stadium.

[afc1903mad]

It's not money that makes it work.

I agree, but an increased expenditure in our youth will increase the opportunities and provide a greater likelihood of developing a young talent that can go on to succeed.

Youth development should always be a priority but it doesn't guarantee we will "grow".

Agreed, but again to reiterate, if we can grow our revenue streams by becoming better at developing and selling talent, it allows for a better reinvestment in the youth and the squad.
Theres no guarantee I grant you, but again, it does provide a higher likelihood.

Sounds like an excuse Milne would come out with for building a stadium.

Easy meme to come out with for a quick bit of backing by your fellow minions , but do you disagree with the points made?

[Aldo1983]

I agree, but an increased expenditure in our youth will increase the opportunities and provide a greater likelihood of developing a young talent that can go on to succeed.



Agreed, but again to reiterate, if we can grow our revenue streams by becoming better at developing and selling talent, it allows for a better reinvestment in the youth and the squad.
Theres no guarantee I grant you, but again, it does provide a higher likelihood.



Easy meme to come out with for a quick bit of backing by your fellow minions , but do you disagree with the points made?

I do disagree. You are trying to simplify something. I assume you aren't and haven't been invovled with youth football at that level?

[afc1903mad]

I do disagree. You are trying to simplify something. I assume you aren't and haven't been invovled with youth football at that level?

at what level?
I've definitely been involved at youth level and had discussions with some of the scouts on potential players.
We've had a number of players go through trials and some have been signed up.

I don;t see how this matters to the point I made or why you disagree