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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    Pure demographic changes mean that if not a single person changed their vote and different age groups voted exactly as they did at the referendum, remain would now win.

    There is no mandate for a hard Brexit, or arguably even now soft Brexit.

    If we have a hard Brexit without the people having a say democracy is dead I agree.

    The problem with our democracy at the moment is that it has been tasked with delivering the undeliverable... there is no consensus on that Brexit should look like, and no way of reflecting the vastly conflicting views of the people.

    People who have an inadequate understanding of politics may feel betrayed by the fact our politicians have been unable to agree on Brexit, but to be fair they represent a diverse group of constituencies who would each feel betrayed if their interests were not represented.

    The inevitable consequence was constitutional crisis. This isn't some elitist conspiracy or plot to get out of Brexit, it's just what happens when a government has no way to reach agreement. It's hard to see any way at all out of it beyond going back to the people, which ironically is the most democratic thing you can do in the event of such a consensus failure and constitutional crisis.
    But that would mean that the democratic vote that won the right to leave, was immaterial therefore holding no accountability and therefore true democracy is indeed dead, should as you say, another vote would have to take place.
    Last edited by Brin; 19-01-2019 at 05:43 PM.

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