Quote Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
Middle class people are better behaved. Of course there are exceptions.

However, the majority of the middle class deserve their status. They worked hard rather than squander it on booze and drugs. They do not fall for instant gratification and actually make sensible long term decisions. They also know that being polite and saying please and thank you can open a few doors and it is a better strategy than 'kicking off' like a spoilt kid if things don't go your way.

Rugby players and fans are predominantly middle class. It's a nicer atmosphere and there is much to admire in their sportsmanship.

Rather than whining about how unfair it is and carry a chip on their shoulder, many would do better instead if they imitated the middle classes.



Not sure who defines 'working class' or 'middle class' or whatever but...…..

I was at Twickenham on Sunday, along with a group of nine others of a similar age (mid fifties). All of us from the Rotherham area and all from 'working class' backgrounds (my interpretation) born into 'average' families, where our parents worked down pit, at steel works, on building sites or in a factory. We all went to comprehensive schools (or Spurley!!).

I lived in a semi-detached house on a council estate in Thurcroft and was 'dragged up' proper i.e. taught good manners and hard work pays off.

I think the first and 'positive' section of your description above would largely describes myself and my compatriots but we are not middle class.

The second and 'derogatory' section does not reflect my understanding of the 'working class'. It may be that there is now a different classification...…...lower than working class...….maybe the Jeremy Kyle ??? generation....

Who knows?

As I said above, I don't know who decides the criteria but I firmly believe that I am working class.

Despite this, I have been to far more rugby matches than football in the last few years.
This is not because I have developed a bout of "middleclassitus" or anything like that but because of three factors:
SKY tv, all seater stadia and agents, who are collectively ruining the game.

Maybe, one day (soon) due to alternative streaming etc (legal or otherwise) the football bubble will burst....