Quote Originally Posted by stripes39 View Post
Errr..no. The majority of those involved in negotiating our withdrawal were not Brexiteers.

May's done an appalling job of negotiating Brexit starting off with running secret parallel negotiations through Remainers like civil servants Olly Robbins who was woeful in his dealings with Europe and blindsiding her own EU Minister David Davis and Steve Baker.

Remainers have undermined the process throughout and directly led to the situation of such an awful deal being offered.

Remain MPs who are the big majority along with people like Blair holding blindsided talks in parallel with Europe is what has encouraged the EU to posture as they have done. Ultimately though the EU need our money and access to our market. It just shows the ineptitude of so many of our useless career politicians that they would consider taking the no deal option off the table. Anyone who has negotiated anything significant knows full well that you do not remove your strongest options off the table even if you do not plan to use them as it severely weakens your position. Sadly, so many MP's do not understand his never having held jobs in the real world.

It just shows how disingenuous so many of our political classes are with the constant mud slinging when the fact is that 90% of MP's voted to have a referendum having debated the process that would be put to the country. They knew what they were voting for. So ALL parties are culpable for this mess we are in. It was also the same MP's who twice voted legislation in that included leaving on March 29 with no deal and now they look likely to do a U-Turn and demand we don't leave without a deal. Corbyn in the meantime can only talk about a general election at the first opportunity. You could not make it up.
'Political Class'
You must mean people like Rees-Mogg and Farage right?

The problem I have, is that Brexit is a sh1tshow and was always likely to be one. All that Brexiteers are doing now are blaming remainers. There is no plan. They have come up with nothing.

You wanted to leave the EU, May's deal does that. So I'm confused why it has so much opposition. Its time to look in the mirror for all Leave voters, you have been lied to on a mass scale by charlatans like Johnson and Farage. Who still have nothing better to offer the country than what May did.

Truthfully, if there was a leave option available that was better than the option of remaining in the EU, why haven't parliament voted for it?

The answer is quite simple, there isn't one.