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[WBA123]

No it’s the remoaners that are moaning more

What is it now 6m on a pointless petition pity as 17m voted FOR on the vote that mattered

Simple

If its that simple you really should have a word with Parliament...

Anyway, which Leave plan did you vote for...
Theresa May's? Norway? Canada ++? No Deal? Have cake and eat it deal?

The true moaners here are leave voters who use the word 'democracy' but in reality haven't got the faintest clue what it is.

They just use that word to justify what their own version is...

We're in political deadlock right now. Another referendum is required to resolve it. Don't blame me or 6m others who signed a petition to revoke it all together. That is our right - as living in a free democracy allows.

Blame Leave supporting politicians who still have no plan or treaty written down whatsoever, all they have are slogans which mean nothing - they're the ones who have really let the country down.

[Yarmbaggie]

What is the point of politicians and government if the answer is to keep on asking the public to vote on issues that most cannot fully understand. It seems to me most politicians don’t fully understand the implications so why should the public.

The EU politicians can’t understand all this talk about new options at the moment and Junker and Barnier have clearly said there are 3 options only, leave under the May deal, leave with no deal or cancel Brexit. Stop messing about with loads of other agendas, another election, another referendum etc.

The reality is just make a decision from the only 3 options on the table and do your job.

[WBA123]

What is the point of politicians and government if the answer is to keep on asking the public to vote on issues that most cannot fully understand. It seems to me most politicians don’t fully understand the implications so why should the public.

The EU politicians can’t understand all this talk about new options at the moment and Junker and Barnier have clearly said there are 3 options only, leave under the May deal, leave with no deal or cancel Brexit. Stop messing about with loads of other agendas, another election, another referendum etc.

The reality is just make a decision from the only 3 options on the table and do your job.

Agree with that, even our politicians don't fully know.

Dominic Raab was our Brexit Secretary and he didn't know how reliant we were on the Dover-Calais crossing. He also said he hadn't read the Good Friday Agreement. This is a politician who advocates to Leave and was in a key ministerial Brexit role - and he doesn't fully grasp what he's talking about. What chance has the ordinary bloke on the street got...

[stripes39]

What is it now 6m on a pointless petition pity as 17m voted FOR on the vote that mattered

Simple

6 Million signatures you say? They only need another 11.4 Million signatures on that petition then it will be inconsequential.

[stripes39]

If its that simple you really should have a word with Parliament...

Anyway, which Leave plan did you vote for...
Theresa May's? Norway? Canada ++? No Deal? Have cake and eat it deal?

The true moaners here are leave voters who use the word 'democracy' but in reality haven't got the faintest clue what it is.

They just use that word to justify what their own version is...

We're in political deadlock right now. Another referendum is required to resolve it. Don't blame me or 6m others who signed a petition to revoke it all together. That is our right - as living in a free democracy allows.

Blame Leave supporting politicians who still have no plan or treaty written down whatsoever, all they have are slogans which mean nothing - they're the ones who have really let the country down.

But there lies the problem. It's not Leave politicians who have been negotiating. Most of them were Remainers. Add in that 75% of the Commons does not want to leave in any case and it's clear this huge political log jam was always just around the corner. If you owned a business and 48% of the salesforce detested a new product you were launching but 52% thought it was brilliant, who would you send out to sell it?

Problem is, several of these options are only going to inflame an already fractured nation. I'm tempted by the suggestion made by Yanis Varoufakis on Question Time - a notable critic of Brussels. He basically said we can't go for a deal that leaves 50% of the nation angry but, we have had a vote and need to respect it so we do not need to vote again - at the moment. He suggested we go for the Norway Plus deal which whilst it means continued membership of the Customs Union, it does deliver a fair bit of what Leave want including control of our Fishing waters and agriculture. He suggested we in time as a nation have an informed and sensible debate at all levels as the whole UK business model and not just Brexit needs re-calibrating. Then in the future once the dust has settled, we have another vote about re-joining the EU or leaving the Customs Union completely. I would go for No Deal but bearing his comments in mind, we need to try and go forward as a nation. Given the warning signs within the EU and with the Euro, if this vote happened in 2 or 3 years time, I'd imagine the EU will have already hit its next crisis of bailing out Italy so as a realistic compromise if No Deal is not an option I'd most likely lean towards it.

[Dubbag]

Agree with that, even our politicians don't fully know.

Dominic Raab was our Brexit Secretary and he didn't know how reliant we were on the Dover-Calais crossing. He also said he hadn't read the Good Friday Agreement. This is a politician who advocates to Leave and was in a key ministerial Brexit role - and he doesn't fully grasp what he's talking about. What chance has the ordinary bloke on the street got...

Depressingly...a fair point.....politicians the world over tend to reflect their electorate.....

[TipperaryBaggie]

If its that simple you really should have a word with Parliament...

Anyway, which Leave plan did you vote for...
Theresa May's? Norway? Canada ++? No Deal? Have cake and eat it deal?

The true moaners here are leave voters who use the word 'democracy' but in reality haven't got the faintest clue what it is.

They just use that word to justify what their own version is...

We're in political deadlock right now. Another referendum is required to resolve it. Don't blame me or 6m others who signed a petition to revoke it all together. That is our right - as living in a free democracy allows.

Blame Leave supporting politicians who still have no plan or treaty written down whatsoever, all they have are slogans which mean nothing - they're the ones who have really let the country down.

I don't think any leave voter can answer your question 123 because we didn't have the option of a leave plan on the voting form. My form just had a straight choice between remain or leave. Maybe you had a different voting form than us.

[WBA123]

I don't think any leave voter can answer your question 123 because we didn't have the option of a leave plan on the voting form. My form just had a straight choice between remain or leave. Maybe you had a different voting form than us.

And that is exactly my point. The referendum question we had was flawed and has lead to the political instability we have now.

[TipperaryBaggie]

No 123, your statement said that we had a chance to vote for a leave plan and now you are backtracking. The only thing that is flawed is your statement.

[phild]

It was so flawed that even the MPs voted for Article 50 to leave with or without a deal.