It doesn't matter, the major overriding issue is that managers and players outside the Dundee sphere see the club as a lost cause due to stunning ineptitude over 40 years. almost every club in the Premiership has hit heights Dundee couldn't even dream of due to the toxicity and conplete failure since 1974. What player or manager would pit Dundee on their CV? The Marrs tried it, FPS tried it, it's pointless. These loan signings are thinking wtf am I doing here, then they remember it's the money. Dundee FC are toxic, that is it.