O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[ragingpup]

There are immigrant workers and immigrant workers raging .

In my experience the eastern europeans are far more comfortable running round DC's picking at 200 items an hour than immigrants from other parts of the world .

I've seen them all in my time , from every corner of the world and the one thing I can tell you is the African and Asian lads won't kill themselves for anyone , just not their kind of work .

The Poles would tip a container in two hours of handballing the African lads would take all shift and trust me they will only work at their pace .

Not as easy as what you think this cheap labour game outside of the EU .

So do you think that someone like me, being denied cheap labour by pesky new do gooder take back control brexit laws is likely to fall in line and pay full whack for our highly productive UK workforce? Or am I more likely to use my agencies to find equally skilled workers from other countries (why Africa dammit? Think big!) and continue my exploitation? I'm offended that you doubt my ability to exploit the **** out of human beings? No shirking on my watch mate :-)

[BigLadonOS]

So do you think that someone like me, being denied cheap labour by pesky new do gooder take back control brexit laws is likely to fall in line and pay full whack for our highly productive UK workforce? Or am I more likely to use my agencies to find equally skilled workers from other countries (why Africa dammit? Think big!) and continue my exploitation? I'm offended that you doubt my ability to exploit the **** out of human beings? No shirking on my watch mate :-)

I can tell you want cheap labour pup and I'm anything but so go find your own info instead of wanting me to do it. pffffft!!!!

[BigLadonOS]

I'm breaking UK laws on employing cheap labour, as in paying below the minimum wage. I don't think an employer like me would give a stuff about your outlawing of eu cheap workers. If just get some from non eu sources. Agencies will provide for me as they do now for cheap eu workers. I'm not saying we shouldn't make every effort to stop me doing this is wrong, I'm just saying that to use this argument to justify a no deal brexit when it so obviously won't stop *******s like me, then I think you're using an ice axe to crack a nut.

An employer like you wouldn't last long and probably end up behind bars. Fingers crossed.

[ragingpup]

An employer like you wouldn't last long and probably end up behind bars. Fingers crossed.

But we've been breaking UK laws on employing cheap eu labour for years, if you're talking about below the minimum wage and undeclared earnings. Is that what youre talking about?

If I've been breaking the law for years and you've not been able to stop me, why should I worry now? I'll just break your new laws.

(just a thought. Maybe you should be trying to force your politicians into enforcing existing laws, rather than making new ones and hoping (rather against all evidence) that they will be enforced this time?)

[ragingpup]

I can tell you want cheap labour pup and I'm anything but so go find your own info instead of wanting me to do it. pffffft!!!!

Actually on this occasion, Wazock, Pino and Abdul were on a 5 minute lunch break so had to do it myself. I really tried, but could find no evidence that the 1922 bill was discussed in mass media as part of the referendum discussions. You tell me such evidence exists and I'm happy to look at it and take it on board but please link to it to prove that it exists.

[wendun]

I don't bother even trying to be bothered with this debate; if such a thing as truth exists in this context nobody can be rrsed to find it. I like BigLad but his take on the Irish dimension is simply bullshine. Here's Oliver Norgrove writing in the Irish Times 20 March 2019 - Norgrove btw was a member of Vote Leave and a prominent Brexit intellectual: "As a former Brexit campaigner...I take the view that central to the unravelling of Brexit has been the Irish border...Those of us who made the case for leaving the EU did not sufficiently take into account the interests of Northern ireland nor indeed did we estimate the significance of the role played by the border within the Brexit negotiations."
I respect BigLad, Animal etc but ON was actually frigging advising politicians on the implications of Brexit before, during and after the referendum so I'll take his conclusion over theirs.

[BigLadonOS]

Actually on this occasion, Wazock, Pino and Abdul were on a 5 minute lunch break so had to do it myself. I really tried, but could find no evidence that the 1922 bill was discussed in mass media as part of the referendum discussions. You tell me such evidence exists and I'm happy to look at it and take it on board but please link to it to prove that it exists.

Here you go mate just 1 little example of media participation. Try to look a little harder in future ok.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northe...itics-36587809

[Exiletyke]

So do you think that someone like me, being denied cheap labour by pesky new do gooder take back control brexit laws is likely to fall in line and pay full whack for our highly productive UK workforce? Or am I more likely to use my agencies to find equally skilled workers from other countries (why Africa dammit? Think big!) and continue my exploitation? I'm offended that you doubt my ability to exploit the **** out of human beings? No shirking on my watch mate :-)

Are you on a wind up rp
You are on the management team of a London college are you not ?

[BigLadonOS]

Are you on a wind up rp
You are on the management team of a London college are you not ?

He is making the point that if he was this type of character not that he actually is lol.

[ragingpup]

Are you on a wind up rp
You are on the management team of a London college are you not ?

Just looking at things from the pov of the ******* exploitive employees who use cheap migrant labour to and hoping to highlight the problems in hoping that brexit will solve the issues that we would like on this issue. Anti exploitation laws will only work if there is the political will to enforce them. We have lots of control already on doing this but choose not to enforce them, or at least find that enforcing them is difficult and expensive. You can use it as a reason for justifying brexit all you like but the problem will not go away in afraid.