O/T Jeremy corbyn

[animallittle3]

I agree animal. But if you're in the Labour Party, you can't just focus on these areas as the majority of the support is spread around the country and much of it in non industrial working class territory. We have to look at the facts, and the facts are that the vast majority of Labour supporters around the country who are defecting over Brexit are defecting to pro-Remain parties.

That's all well and good raging but isolating the brexit heartlands won't get Corbyn in to number 10 .

These heartlands have never had any MP's other than Labour , shyttin on your own doorstep comes with huge consequences around these parts .

The vote around here has suddenly become very competitive when it was and should be a given .

I know we disagree on figures but to me Corbyn may gather one extra vote outside of these heartlands but he risks losing five around here .

I just don't see a Labour government without this area and the like solidly on board .

Once we are sold down the river it will be incredibly difficult to get us back .

These brexit heartlands pay the Labour Party bills , it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds .

[ragingpup]

That's all well and good raging but isolating the brexit heartlands won't get Corbyn in to number 10 .

These heartlands have never had any MP's other than Labour , shyttin on your own doorstep comes with huge consequences around these parts .

The vote around here has suddenly become very competitive when it was and should be a given .

I know we disagree on figures but to me Corbyn may gather one extra vote outside of these heartlands but he risks losing five around here .

I just don't see a Labour government without this area and the like solidly on board .

Once we are sold down the river it will be incredibly difficult to get us back .

These brexit heartlands pay the Labour Party bills , it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds .

Losing 5 to one isn't what the numbers say Animal? Where do you work out losing 5 to 1 by going behind Remain? Fullfact normally are very reliable with their data

And using the message boards on here, I would say that Northern towns being Labour Heartlands has gone. The last 10 years rise of the far right and blaming of migration for their problems has put paid to that. They see Labour as to blame for the rise in migration and as a party that will protect free movement and I don't think we can count many of these people as Labour voters anymore.

Quite frankly, with the views posted by some of them on here, I don't want them in any party with me. **** em.