Phillip Cocu

[ramAnag]

Transfer windows are designed to have that impact,not Brexit.

Agree entirely, wesso. I’m just asking what the implications of Brexit may be for footballers from Europe, especially as it coincides with a time when our prospective new manager is going to be so much more familiar with the European/Dutch market.

[wessoram]

Agree entirely, wesso. I’m just asking what the implications of Brexit may be for footballers from Europe, especially as it coincides with a time when our prospective new manager is going to be so much more familiar with the European/Dutch market.

So it was a political question then, on a football thread. No need for it.

[ramAnag]

So it was a political question then, on a football thread. No need for it.

Behave wesso! There are times when football and politics overlap - see Parky’s response above - but the question is entirely motivated by my interest in the fortunes of DCFC.
I save the politics for the Brexit thread, but it would be unfortunate IF - for the first time in ages - having a manager who actually looks further afield than Scotland coincides with restrictions on players from Europe and the Dutch league especially.

[Andy_Faber]

Behave wesso! There are times when football and politics overlap - see Parky’s response above - but the question is entirely motivated by my interest in the fortunes of DCFC.
I save the politics for the Brexit thread, but it would be unfortunate IF - for the first time in ages - having a manager who actually looks further afield than Scotland coincides with restrictions on players from Europe and the Dutch league especially.

I’m with Wesso, start a new thread

[ramAnag]

I’m with Wesso, start a new thread

Why? It’s a thread about our (possible) new Dutch manager and I’ve introduced the (possible) implications of an impending Brexit on his ability to introduce signings from Holland/Europe. What’s wrong with that or have the thought police stopped us referring to the ‘B word’ in any shape of form?
Too much paranoia on here. MA, GP and Swale didn’t seem to have any difficulty responding intelligently.

[Andy_Faber]

Why? It’s a thread about our (possible) new Dutch manager and I’ve introduced the (possible) implications of an impending Brexit on his ability to introduce signings from Holland/Europe. What’s wrong with that or have the thought police stopped us referring to the ‘B word’ in any shape of form?
Too much paranoia on here. MA, GP and Swale didn’t seem to have any difficulty responding intelligently.

Is the silent majority again RA, in this case the folk who want to talk footy and see another thread hijacked by the 'putting the world to rights' circle jerking brigade (in which I include myself), not helping me to attract/retain DCFC supporters who want to rattle on about footy but who despise politics

[ramAnag]

Is the silent majority again RA, in this case the folk who want to talk footy and see another thread hijacked by the 'putting the world to rights' circle jerking brigade (in which I include myself), not helping me to attract/retain DCFC supporters who want to rattle on about footy but who despise politics

You’re totally missing the point Andy. It’s nothing to do with politics...well not directly anyway.
Hypothetically, if we were sticking with Lampard we’d be looking at benefitting from having access to Chelsea youngsters. If we were going back to giving Rowett a second chance we might be asking who he might want to link up with from Stoke City. The same is true of Karanka...Forest and Boro’ connections, or Clough...no one outside a twenty five mile radius of Derby or Scotland.

As it happens we’ve chosen to venture into the European managerial market for the first time ever. It’s a big step and, in our current situation, one of the attractions is that Cocu will have extensive knowledge of both established Dutch players along with up and coming youngsters keen to make a name for themselves in England.

Unfortunately and completely peripherally, our venture coincides with a time when it may become harder to attract players from abroad.
I don’t know whether that is true or not and am making no comment on the rights and wrongs of that situation.

My questions, which were never designed to stir up such a hornet’s nest, are...

1) Is it likely to become harder to sign Europeans? Which three posters answered intelligently.
2) All managers come with perceived additional perks (i.e.Clough and Rowett’s history and knowledge of the club, or Lampard’s connections). Cocu’s ‘connections’ are with Dutch and European football. In a different ‘climate’ I’d be happily enthusiastic about that, but can we still be as enthusiastic if those ‘perks’ are no longer available for us to benefit from?

In short...do we still want Cocu if the potential for signing new and undiscovered Dutch talent does not come with him or would we be better sticking with the domestic managerial market?

It’s a question...not a statement...and I think you’ll find it’s entirely about football.

[swaledale]

Is the silent majority again RA, in this case the folk who want to talk footy and see another thread hijacked by the 'putting the world to rights' circle jerking brigade (in which I include myself), not helping me to attract/retain DCFC supporters who want to rattle on about footy but who despise politics

I don't see this as being other than how Brexit might affect player recruitment, there was no political points being made, just an assessment of the situation - which could be an impact of Derby appointing a continental manager and coaching staff who won't necessarily be au fait with players in the UK.