O/T When the phuck will this country wake up?.

[shedka]

peter, you are slavering pish as usual, the early 2000s was the worst period I can remember for Scottish football when it comes to the overall product... There has NEVER ever been a time when the old firm (rip) were so far ahead of everyone else, it was truly ridiculous how big the gap was on and off the park, league tables and results tell that clearly, they won everything, league and cups at a canter winning 3-4-5 all the time, we were a laughing stock, and the national team was at its worst ever under vogts

The overall product was at its best during the mid to late noughties during the setanta years but they went bust, at that point hearts were very strong due to romanov and split the old firm won the big cup, hibs had a crazy golden generation won the league cup, Aberdeen were strong under tangoman and reached uefa group, Utd were strong under Levein and averaging 8000-8500 regular (without derbies), Celtic reached last 16 of champions league twice, Rangers went to the uefa final, they were not winning by huge score lines every week domestically, Scotland were resurgent under Smith and theb McLeish giving World Cup winner and runner up Italy and France a run for there money

[TerryTheTerror]

I think you are being overly harsh on Pedro there,I actually agree with a lot he says in his post.

[Chick A Saw]

peter, you are slavering pish as usual, the early 2000s was the worst period I can remember for Scottish football when it comes to the overall product...

Utd were strong under Levein and averaging 8000-8500 regular (without derbies),

What was your post about shedka? Was it to have a dig at Peter, or was it just another chance to hit them with the crowd debate again?

Sometimes that pish has to be put to one side or we will never get together and sort it out!

[stokearab]

Impressed this thread is still running!

As Terry and others have said its partly about population but also, maybe mainly, to do with inept Glasgow two pleasing SFA/SPFL.

The Glasgow two are to blame for nearly everything that's wrong with Scottish football because they put everything club before country. The press wont challenge it because THEY hide away under the need to sell papers to the knuckledragging fans of both teams.

The fact that Doncaster came out saying we should be proud of what's been done on sectarianism is nothing short of disgraceful and highlights the complete buffoonery and downright Old Firm pleasing LYING that goes on. A complete joke.

So the cycle goes on.