O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[BigLadonOS]

Still waiting for an answer from remainers........ tic toc

[KerrAvon]

Still waiting for an answer from remainers........ tic toc

I’ve argued against a further referendum on this thread, so I’m not sure that I count a remainer, but I will address your points:

Staying in the EU, means remaining within the largest trading bloc in the world.

The Euro is a daft project in that it ties economies together in which there are different fiscal policies being run. I’d like to think that 2008 has persuaded the ECB and national governments that allowing member countries to break the rules of the currency by, say, running excessive budget deficits isn’t a good idea, but who knows.

There is no prospect of an EU Army outside the febrile imagination of the Leave campaign. Under Lisbon, it’s establishment would require a unanimous vote by member states and there is no chance of that.

Spanish and Italian employment is falling. Both countries discovered the consequences of running debt driven economies and, in the case of Italy in particular, did not take the difficult decisions that the UK did to address that. Their problem is of their own making, not that of the EU or Germany.

[WanChaiMiller]

Here is a challenge to all you remainers out there.

How many of you know which way the EU is going to go over the failed Euro currency?
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Be interesting to hear your understanding of why you think the Euro is a failed currency?

[WanChaiMiller]

In all honesty putting the politics aside NOBODY and I mean NOBODY will know the answer to what will or will not happen until we leave the EU.

So when Brexiteer are accused of not knowing what they voted for it is actually true. Laughable.

[great_fire]

So when Brexiteer are accused of not knowing what they voted for it is actually true. Laughable.

Yes they did, to leave the EU, as in not be a member anymore, not that difficult to understand really.

[Exiletyke]

I’ve argued against a further referendum on this thread, so I’m not sure that I count a remainer, but I will address your points:

Staying in the EU, means remaining within the largest trading bloc in the world.

The Euro is a daft project in that it ties economies together in which there are different fiscal policies being run. I’d like to think that 2008 has persuaded the ECB and national governments that allowing member countries to break the rules of the currency by, say, running excessive budget deficits isn’t a good idea, but who knows.

There is no prospect of an EU Army outside the febrile imagination of the Leave campaign. Under Lisbon, it’s establishment would require a unanimous vote by member states and there is no chance of that.

Spanish and Italian employment is falling. Both countries discovered the consequences of running debt driven economies and, in the case of Italy in particular, did not take the difficult decisions that the UK did to address that. Their problem is of their own making, not that of the EU or Germany.

Another example of Cur not being sure again This time that he is a remainer & although, to use his own phrase "I don't like to intrude on other people's arguments" he nevertheless does
Why does he think that arguing against a further referendum has anything to do with being a remainer?

[WanChaiMiller]

Yes they did, to leave the EU, as in not be a member anymore, not that difficult to understand really.

No, agreed, really simple. So no considetation was made for after we leave the EU?

[ragingpup]

"personally think that the Leave project is fundamentally fuelled by fat cat multi corporations and their right wing media allays"

Close - just 100% wrong imo.

Fat cats are doing fine during this austerity period. But the multiple corporations as you call them want an open door migrant policy to fill there tedious little jobs. The ASUS factory near Wath is a prime example.

Big business want to stay and their "right wing media allies" are REMOANERS - remainiacs.

The argument ends for me when the gangsters of the EU try to slip in EU into our statute books without Parliamentary approval or even knowledge.

We joined a market - it's change into a non electable governing body that are German lead and controlled. We've had issues with Germany before - and they are using the 'Art of War' premium attack method.....taking over a country without a shot being fired and the remainiacs are nothing more than the Vischy French.

So you don't think that there are "fat cat multi corporations" supporting Brexit?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...back-a-brexit/

I would say that "multi corporations" are quite split, depending on those who have business dependency on the EU in some way, and those that have a vested interest in investing in other markets. The issue is the balance of these, and to what extent our economy could be balanced by the new investment. The majority of economic forecasts indicate that on balance we will be negatively unbalanced by this. And then of course, you have the 'unspoken' speculating within companies, those that know that a 'hit' UK economy will likely be 'rebalanced' by yet another "turbo charge" of the economy with corporation tax being slashed and yet more manna to the God of "Trickle Down".

Media right wing don't support Brexit? Really? Sun, Mail, Express, Telegraph. This is the vast majority of the newspaper selling media.

(and again, I don't support a Remain agenda. I support a deal)

[great_fire]

No, agreed, really simple. So no considetation was made for after we leave the EU?

That's a separate issue which the government has had years to sort out, instead they've spent that time doing their best to prevent us leaving.

[great_fire]

So you don't think that there are "fat cat multi corporations" supporting Brexit?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...back-a-brexit/

I would say that "multi corporations" are quite split, depending on those who have business dependency on the EU in some way, and those that have a vested interest in investing in other markets. The issue is the balance of these, and to what extent our economy could be balanced by the new investment. The majority of economic forecasts indicate that on balance we will be negatively unbalanced by this. And then of course, you have the 'unspoken' speculating within companies, those that know that a 'hit' UK economy will likely be 'rebalanced' by yet another "turbo charge" of the economy with corporation tax being slashed and yet more manna to the God of "Trickle Down".

Media right wing don't support Brexit? Really? Sun, Mail, Express, Telegraph. This is the vast majority of the newspaper selling media.

(and again, I don't support a Remain agenda. I support a deal)

None of those are corporations.

The only big company that supports Brexit is Dyson.