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[KerrAvon]

Marking your own homework and now quoting yourself. You have a very high opinion of yourself.

What other defeats was Abbott talking to? Let me see, she was talking to a pro-British defeat comment with Ireland is "our struggle". Perhaps she was talking about the Cod War, given the amount of cod you are talking about the point.

You didn’t like the criticism of one of your leader's chief acolytes (his, ahem, Abbott), so you made up an excuse for her - fabricated a reason - dissembled - picking slavery out of thin air, presumably because you though it safe ground. Is that what you mean by being willing to stand up and argue your point? Lol.


As for bollo on Corbyn and Iranian TV. Let’s look at what we know:

1. Iran imprisons and tortures dissidents, oppresses women and gay people.
2. Corbyn appeared several times as a host on Press TV – an arm of the Iranian government (I’ve never asserted a specific number by the way);
3. The widely reported fee for appearances is ‘up to £20 000’. I don’t know the exact figure and, frankly, don’t understand the relevance of your frenzied postings around it other than as seeing it as an attempt to try to distract from points 1 and 2.

What do you disagree on in points 1 to 3?

Just noticed the typo on this. It should read that she preceded her comments about a pro-British defeat with Ireland is "our struggle".

[ragingpup]

When you say you posted an article, you mean that you put up a link to some rantings from Skawkbox. I can't make my mind up whether that is worse than insisting that I comment upon the 'facts' in an article published by Russia Today:

https://medium.com/@pitt_bob/skwawkb...t-47ed00a50898

Does Skawkbox appear on your newly beloved media reliabity checker?

When you say 'ledger' I assume you mean the Register of Member's interests. Why don't you replicate Skawbox's 'work' by putting up some links?

And what are you saying is the point of your argument? If Corbyn appeared for free would that make it ok?

I’m sure that Corbyn did sign a few motions about Iran (even though Skawkbox says it). Iran probably doesn’t know and cares even less.

I've already posted that article twice. It's useful don't you think. You don't like the source, true, but you couldn't find a way of arguing with the inconvenient facts within it. Same with Russia Today (which incidentally has a high Fact Check record with MBFC - don't like MBFC? Show me a better rated, more reliable one? We do agree that independent fact checking is a good thing right? No? Or do we just rely on our own prejudices?

You were the one spreading flase information. I was simply correcting you. So let's agree that, according to the payments received on theyworkforyou.com:

1. He appeared twice, not on "several programs". "Several" means more than twice" so "several" is an incorrect and misleading term
2. We do not know how much he was paid, not the £20k as you repeatedly stated
3. His appearances were dated 2009-10 - not 2009 - 12 as you earlier insisted. The dates are important as Corbyn was one of the few MPs who actually registered protests in the Commons about the issues you raise and it was about this time he ended his involvement with Press TV. The payments listed in TWFY in 2011/12 are the two initial entries that had not been deleted.

I would agree that Corbyn would have been better advised not doing the two TV appearances. And the amount of money isn't relevant. But if it isn't relevant, why did you feel the need to present £20k as the amount he received in repeated posts?

You still haven't come up with any other politicians or anyone else that has done more than Corbyn in signing 4 seperate commons motions expressing disapproval of Iran's increasingly horrible policies.

Remember - you, Big Lad style, are the one that repeatedly presented misinformation as facts. I am simply pointing those facts out as being incorrect. Just as you did Big Lad.


P.s. You also repeatedly posted a quote from Corbyn praising "Iran's tolerance of other faiths". I agreed this looked worrying and researched. I reported back to you that all I could find was a brutally edited 8 second piece of video with Corbyn saying only these words, and said we needed to see the words in context. I asked you what longer video you had found that convinced you that Corbyn was praising the current regime, and exactly what he was talking about. Have you found a longer video or transcript? No? Any idea why you think that the video might have been cut before and after these words in the brutal way that it was? Do you not even begin to small a rat? Or, BL stylie, did you just repost with the other hysterical right wing press without even thinking, just because it fits your world view?

I don't really have a high opinion of myself. I'm probably the only person on here who admits to being wrong and truly quite thick in world affairs. But frankly what does that make you?

[BigLadonOS]

1. He appeared twice, not on "several programs". "Several" means more than twice" so "several" is an incorrect and misleading term
2. We do not know how much he was paid, not the £20k as you repeatedly stated
3. His appearances were dated 2009-10 - not 2009 - 12 as you earlier insisted. The dates are important as Corbyn was one of the few MPs who actually registered protests in the Commons about the issues you raise and it was about this time he ended his involvement with Press TV. The payments listed in TWFY in 2011/12 are the two initial entries that had not been deleted.

I would agree that Corbyn would have been better advised not doing the two TV appearances. And the amount of money isn't relevant. But if it isn't relevant, why did you feel the need to present £20k as the amount he received in repeated posts?

You cannot even get your SO CALLED FACTS correct while trying to use your argument against someone you are saying is factually false. You are a laugh pup. Where were these 2 and only 2 tv shows he has appeared on?

[ragingpup]

You cannot even get your SO CALLED FACTS correct while trying to use your argument against someone you are saying is factually false. You are a laugh pup. Where were these 2 and only 2 tv shows he has appeared on?

Sorry what facts are you calling incorrect? I am stating 2 appearances as he is only recorded as receiving payments for 2 appearances. You can check this on entries on theyworkforyou. The media said 4 as there are 4 entries but what the person researching the records (accidentally or purposely) counted the same payment that was on the record but just hadn't been removed, but highlighted a different colour. So only 2 actual new payments were made according to the stats that we can all check. And so everyone in the media released the '4 appearances @ 5k = 20k' line that Kerr was regurgitating. Those are the 'facts' as I know them from looking at different sources and checking. Happy to look at other evidence if you have any others.

In answer to your question, the 2 appearances are on Iran's TV station - I thought we had established that?

So which 'so called facts' am I getting wrong?

[howdydoo]

Ragingpup

You do have an high opinion of yourself.

Let’s make that patently clear.

[BigLadonOS]

Sorry what facts are you calling incorrect? I am stating 2 appearances as he is only recorded as receiving payments for 2 appearances. You can check this on entries on theyworkforyou. The media said 4 as there are 4 entries but what the person researching the records (accidentally or purposely) counted the same payment that was on the record but just hadn't been removed, but highlighted a different colour. So only 2 actual new payments were made according to the stats that we can all check. And so everyone in the media released the '4 appearances @ 5k = 20k' line that Kerr was regurgitating. Those are the 'facts' as I know them from looking at different sources and checking. Happy to look at other evidence if you have any others.

In answer to your question, the 2 appearances are on Iran's TV station - I thought we had established that?

So which 'so called facts' am I getting wrong?

Does this one not count as a Press TV show?

[howdydoo]

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=10133

Ragingpup is correct. You could argue a case about one or two of the other entries but all articles relating to the £20k payment appear, to be misleading or fabricated.

[ragingpup]

Does this one not count as a Press TV show?

Yes. there's another where he is sat on a bench.

You need two others that I have tried to find but can't.

[BigLadonOS]

Yes. there's another where he is sat on a bench.

You need two others that I have tried to find but can't.

Ok pup what about these.

The first one about 20 mins in he admits to presenting some programs (presenting is the key word here)

https://www.facebook.com/pinknews/vi...4508602786518/

This 2nd one is one where he is a panellist (NOT a presenter) so to my knowledge alone that is at least 4.

[ragingpup]

Ok pup what about these.

The first one about 20 mins in he admits to presenting some programs (presenting is the key word here)

https://www.facebook.com/pinknews/vi...4508602786518/

This 2nd one is one where he is a panellist (NOT a presenter) so to my knowledge alone that is at least 4.

Credit where it’s due BL, that’s a good find. I’ve seen one appearance on Press TV, and then seen your second. I assume that these were the 2 that he was paid for. I have no idea about the panel TV appearance, in terms of what year and payment but it isn’t recorded on the Theyworkforyou site. Possibly before the ‘presenting’ appearances but I honestly don’t know. It certainly isn’t recorded under the 2009-12 payments and can’t find anything else in Corbyn’s records on the website. Maybe he did them for fun? Happy to acknowledge though that I was wrong and he has appeared on more than 2 programmes on Press TV, albeit not part of the sequence of programmes discussed in the Pink News link you shared.