O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[rolymiller]

You really have to stop making things up about this man and stop fantasising it's not good for you and the other posters on here tear your arguments to piecesm

[BigLadonOS]

Think I have answered it very well big lad. Go on then I'm game how do you trust an upper class hypocrite. Im all ears or do you want to give me your stock reply in these situations and say research it yourself.

So what you are saying is that you yourself are not to be trusted?

Interesting that you think you have never been a hypocrite. I know I have.

[WanChaiMiller]

Very naughty Wan Chai , the Labour Party aren't representing 70% of their constituencies with regard to brexit .

So going on your logic Dennis Skinner is also a representative of right wing privileged tory politics .

Yes - No ?

I think youve been conned by the likes of Johnson, Rees Mogg and the ERG. I think they have diffetent plans for Britain than the reason why I think you voted leave (I not trying to put words in your mouth - Im judging it by what I think I remember you posting on on here - am I right in remebering a post where you hoped employment conditions would improve for working people and wages would rise - if wrong put me straight). I think these 2 want a deregulated, low tax and low cost economy. Johnson is already taking to duty free ports in the same style as Dubai.

Dennis Skinner did not sign up as a member of the Leave UK campaign group and Ive not seen anywhere where he shows support for Johnson and Rees Mogg.

Having left the EU I think the next battle will be to rest the soul of the country away from right wing of the Tory party.

However, our political parties are divided, split on the kines of leave or remain. There is no political entity to mount a challenge against Johnsons politics that leaves the way forward for these right wingers.

Just my thoughts btw.

[WanChaiMiller]

He actually only owns 15% of the shares mate and has no say in the running of the business but why let the truth spoil your argument eh!

You have missed the part that he co-founded the business, is still a partner and takes a hefty salary from the business [He publically declared £185,777 in employment income from the company in the 12 months running up to January 2019, working 30 hours per month, according to Parliament’s register of member’s interests.].

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-re...al-management/

[animallittle3]

I think youve been conned by the likes of Johnson, Rees Mogg and the ERG. I think they have diffetent plans for Britain than the reason why I think you voted leave (I not trying to put words in your mouth - Im judging it by what I think I remember you posting on on here - am I right in remebering a post where you hoped employment conditions would improve for working people and wages would rise - if wrong put me straight). I think these 2 want a deregulated, low tax and low cost economy. Johnson is already taking to duty free ports in the same style as Dubai.

Dennis Skinner did not sign up as a member of the Leave UK campaign group and Ive not seen anywhere where he shows support for Johnson and Rees Mogg.

Having left the EU I think the next battle will be to rest the soul of the country away from right wing of the Tory party.

However, our political parties are divided, split on the kines of leave or remain. There is no political entity to mount a challenge against Johnsons politics that leaves the way forward for these right wingers.

Just my thoughts btw.

Wan Chai

I'm fully aware that the reasons Mogg and Johnson want to leave the EU don't chime with the majority of working class leave voters .

The ERG and lets face it they are the ones in government right now rather than the tory party are fanatical small state less interference and regulation people and see the EU as yet another layer of inconvenience they can well do without .

I'm happy enough for them to get us out and then hopefully they are binned by the electorate at the first available opportunity so that the peace can be won by a party that represents working class interests .

I take the point Labour's present standing doesn't look too grand these days but a change of leader would clearly fix that .

My point about Dennis Skinner is that he's a champion of representing the working class in parliament and a leaver .

Once we are out the real battle will commence , I suspect fanatics like the ERG have a very limited life span with the electorate of this country .

It's one thing to take over their own party whilst in government but quite another to win a GE .

Just my opinion .

[ragingpup]

I think youve been conned by the likes of Johnson, Rees Mogg and the ERG. I think they have diffetent plans for Britain than the reason why I think you voted leave (I not trying to put words in your mouth - Im judging it by what I think I remember you posting on on here - am I right in remebering a post where you hoped employment conditions would improve for working people and wages would rise - if wrong put me straight). I think these 2 want a deregulated, low tax and low cost economy. Johnson is already taking to duty free ports in the same style as Dubai.

Dennis Skinner did not sign up as a member of the Leave UK campaign group and Ive not seen anywhere where he shows support for Johnson and Rees Mogg.

Having left the EU I think the next battle will be to rest the soul of the country away from right wing of the Tory party.

However, our political parties are divided, split on the kines of leave or remain. There is no political entity to mount a challenge against Johnsons politics that leaves the way forward for these right wingers.

Just my thoughts btw.

This piece sums up what is happening, the new international use of 'disaster capitalism' to gain more assets and wealth for the ultra rich:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...aire-oligarchs

In essence: use politicians and media to create the circumstances for economic shock, gain public consensus by pointing at suitable social scapegoats (always the weakest) and then respond to the economic shock by cutting taxes and buying assets and public utilities/services so that the 'new oligarchs' accumulate more wealth. Nice work if you can get it.

But don't worry - we'll just assist them getting further rich from Brexit and then we'll sort them out!

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Lol another piece of Guardian propaganda

Stick to the Beano and Dandy, they’re more representative of the real world.

[WanChaiMiller]

Lol another piece of Guardian propaganda

Stick to the Beano and Dandy, they’re more representative of the real world.

What about the content Grist? Content matters dont you know.

[WanChaiMiller]

Yellow card.

Playing the man not the ball.

What about what he actually said?

When did content suddenly start to matter for brexiteers? Brexiteers spent the whole referendum debate knocking the sourse of any report as a way to win an argument. You're still doing it now.

[great_fire]

What about the content Grist? Content matters dont you know.

It's compete garbage, the City, the banks, the corporations, the hedge fund managers, they all want to stay in the EU.

Why do you think we haven't left?