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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    What do these articles have to do with you unquestionably linking to Gilligan's poorly researched article? Corbyn et al's links with supporting the Irish unionists cause against the British state is well documented and well rooted in opposing the British State's use of apartheid tactics in Northern Ireland in the late 60s, as well as their own use of weapons on a peaceful NI Labour Party march that triggered the Troubles in the first place. If you're interested, read up on it but read both sides of the debate, not just unquestioning acceptance of your own Starte just because you happen to have been born there.
    Why are you such a plank? Those articles prove the point that you so hard tried to put down. It was not only the opinion of Gilligan but of many other people but once again you will not have read any of them to see what they contain other than what Gilligan wrote because you are so entrenched in your own opinion that you will not see the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    Why are you such a plank? Those articles prove the point that you so hard tried to put down. It was not only the opinion of Gilligan but of many other people but once again you will not have read any of them to see what they contain other than what Gilligan wrote because you are so entrenched in your own opinion that you will not see the light.
    Of course I'm aware that many people have associated Corbyn with supporting the IRA cause. This is because...he supported the IRA cause. What's your point?

    The question is the same as I had with Kerr - can you support a cause when some who also support that cause use violence to further that cause? I think you can, and that supporting that cause does not mean condoning the violence used to support the cause.

    Because Corbyn supported the cause of the IRA for 20 years, opposing the measures (and atrocities carried out on Irish civilians), he will have also met some people in that time who were either at the time, or exposed later involved with IRA violence. But without a doubt, Corbyn supported and preached an end to violence both from the IRA and the British State throughout.

    So I'm not sure what you're hoping to gain by posting lots or articles linking Corbyn with IRA people. I'm just interested in why you unquestionably copy/posted the article linking him with a specific group, Red Action, at vague times that Gilligan himself can't even specify, that has been well pulled apart by the source I linked to. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Of course I'm aware that many people have associated Corbyn with supporting the IRA cause. This is because...he supported the IRA cause. What's your point?

    The question is the same as I had with Kerr - can you support a cause when some who also support that cause use violence to further that cause? I think you can, and that supporting that cause does not mean condoning the violence used to support the cause.

    Because Corbyn supported the cause of the IRA for 20 years, opposing the measures (and atrocities carried out on Irish civilians), he will have also met some people in that time who were either at the time, or exposed later involved with IRA violence. But without a doubt, Corbyn supported and preached an end to violence both from the IRA and the British State throughout.

    So I'm not sure what you're hoping to gain by posting lots or articles linking Corbyn with IRA people. I'm just interested in why you unquestionably copy/posted the article linking him with a specific group, Red Action, at vague times that Gilligan himself can't even specify, that has been well pulled apart by the source I linked to. That's all.
    Ok I kind of get your point but how do you justify his actions here?

    Danny Kinahan, Ulster Unionist MP for South Antrim, has stated that he is appalled that the Labour Party Leader, Jeremy Corbyn MP, signed a letter opposing the extradition of IRA terrorist, Dessie Ellis, to the United Kingdom.

    https://uup.org/news/3830/Danny-Kina...t#.XU_b8-hKjcs

    I am sorry mate but to me that is directly supporting violence.

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