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Thread: Derek McInnes

  1. #3771
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    I'm not saying Igor Biscan in particular, I meant someone like him in the sense of the qualities I listed. A manager who has more on his CV than a solitary league cup (inferior to Scottish Cup) victory in his managerial career. We need to bring in someone with a winning mentality, someone who knows the British game and sets teams out to win rather to not concede. I suggested Igor purely because he is fresh in the mind but I'm sure there would be other managers who carry the same qualities as him and would bring a freshness and excitement to Aberdeen again.

    Fair enough about Steve Clarke, the ship has most probably sailed with him but it should still be an option to ask him if we did do the unthinkable and part ways with McInnes.

    As for Jack Ross, I don't see it myself, as has been written on here about his time at Sunderland he hasn't exactly performed miracles down there, rather he's under-performed it appears. Does he tick the winning mentality, setting teams out to win, bringing freshness and excitement boxes??? I have no idea but I'd wager not purely due to his team still being in the 1st division rather than getting promoted with a healthy wage bill relative to the other teams in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakkTheMakk View Post
    I'm not saying Igor Biscan in particular, I meant someone like him in the sense of the qualities I listed. A manager who has more on his CV than a solitary league cup (inferior to Scottish Cup) victory in his managerial career. We need to bring in someone with a winning mentality, someone who knows the British game and sets teams out to win rather to not concede. I suggested Igor purely because he is fresh in the mind but I'm sure there would be other managers who carry the same qualities as him and would bring a freshness and excitement to Aberdeen again.

    Fair enough about Steve Clarke, the ship has most probably sailed with him but it should still be an option to ask him if we did do the unthinkable and part ways with McInnes.

    As for Jack Ross, I don't see it myself, as has been written on here about his time at Sunderland he hasn't exactly performed miracles down there, rather he's under-performed it appears. Does he tick the winning mentality, setting teams out to win, bringing freshness and excitement boxes??? I have no idea but I'd wager not purely due to his team still being in the 1st division rather than getting promoted with a healthy wage bill relative to the other teams in the league.
    I don’t think Jack Ross is any better than McInnes is but I still think he will end up being our manager at some point.

    When he beats a diddy European team 5-0 there will probably be less people going on about how pish they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devanha Red View Post
    Think we all know simply changing the coach won't be enough. To change the fortunes of this club a complete regime change is required.

    Problem is there's only so much a club from a small provincial city can do while the two ogres from Glasgow exist. Even with a new man in the chair realistically we're still going to be playing for third place and occasional domestic cup wins season after season.

    It's a tough life being a red.
    Of course as things stand it's third and hopeful cup runs but you missed out the Europe part, why can Aberdeen not expect to qualify for the group stage at the same ratio that Celtic hope to do with the Champions league? Even 1 year out of 3 would increase the money coming in significantly which in turn would enable the manager to strengthen and plan more productively than what we're currently doing.

    Then with a better standard of player you can look to increase the ratio of cup success and increase the ratio for Europe to 2 years out of 5 etc. It all starts with one year getting to the Europa league group stages sadly and building from there, cup success are obviously what every fan wants but in reality to have a better chance of doing so you need a better standard of player with a manager who believes in attacking to get that outcome.

    McInnes and Aberdeen haven't had the worst run of opposition in Europe, not the easiest but certainly not the hardest every year and we should be looking to be reaching the group stages after 5 consecutive years of trying under him but alas we haven't even broke through to the play off round as yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakkTheMakk View Post
    Of course as things stand it's third and hopeful cup runs but you missed out the Europe part, why can Aberdeen not expect to qualify for the group stage
    Definitely group stages should be a goal with actually achieving it being well within our reach.

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    Since it became obvious he cant take us to the next level ive wanted him gone.

    That was about 18 months ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros39 View Post
    Since it became obvious he cant take us to the next level ive wanted him gone.

    That was about 18 months ago
    To be replaced by?...
    out of interest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStarTorphins View Post
    To be replaced by?...
    out of interest...
    Anyone who isn't a sh!te bag and a doss stubborn prick

    But seriously it would be difficult finding someone. Toni koumbari? Barry Robson as assistant to Steve Clarke wen he leaves Scotland job. Who knows I haven't a scooby tbh

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    Strachan
    Darren Ferguson

    Theres another 2, and maybe Neil warnock

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    What's the obsession with who specifically would replace him? It's good enough to know the current coach is having a negative affect on the clubs fortunes so he needs to go.

    I'd go foreign. Scottish coaches are terrible. An attack minded coach and contrary to what a previous poster says I'd specifically want someone with limited knowledge of Scottish football so he'd come to it completely fresh and unfettered by preconceptions of what is and isn't possible.

    Who knows someone like that might even think it's possible to win against anybody, anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakkTheMakk View Post
    Of course as things stand it's third and hopeful cup runs but you missed out the Europe part, why can Aberdeen not expect to qualify for the group stage at the same ratio that Celtic hope to do with the Champions league? Even 1 year out of 3 would increase the money coming in significantly which in turn would enable the manager to strengthen and plan more productively than what we're currently doing.

    Then with a better standard of player you can look to increase the ratio of cup success and increase the ratio for Europe to 2 years out of 5 etc. It all starts with one year getting to the Europa league group stages sadly and building from there, cup success are obviously what every fan wants but in reality to have a better chance of doing so you need a better standard of player with a manager who believes in attacking to get that outcome.

    McInnes and Aberdeen haven't had the worst run of opposition in Europe, not the easiest but certainly not the hardest every year and we should be looking to be reaching the group stages after 5 consecutive years of trying under him but alas we haven't even broke through to the play off round as yet.
    Yes, I'm completely with you on this. Irish teams have qualified for the group stages of the Europa League twice in the past few years ffs. Last year we lost to a Cypriot team lest we forget! That was a blinding chance too, as far as I was concerned at the time. As a Red Tv viewer from afar throughout McInnes' tenure his first full season was the best to watch, without question. Peter Pawlett was on fire for a spell...some folk say he inherited that side...I guess he did really.

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