OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[AngryRam]

You could have been my lad in a strop with that post Whatever

Tell me you did not just type 'whatever' and then compare me with your lad.

[AngryRam]

Here's a picture of Farage's NHS bus. Have a good look at it.

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Where does it say ALL of the £350M a week would go to the NHS? People have read that into it. It was probably intended to be read that way in the way that all advertising purposely confuses.

Top line is partially factual. The UK's gross payment for 2018 was £17Bn which works out at £326.9M a week. The 350 wasn't far out. What it doesn't tell us is that we get a £4Bn rebate on that. We also get around £4Bn more in grants and subsidies from the EU meaning the net contribution is £9Bn a year or £173M a week. Not exactly a lie but most definitely the whole truth.

The 2nd line reads Let's fund our NHS instead. That doesn't say that the idea is to plough the entire EU payment into the NHS. You can give extra funding to the NHS and use some of the EU monies for other stuff. I admit, they wanted people to believe that they were saying all that cash would go to the NHS and many bought it.

[MadAmster]

Just spotted a typo in my "bus" post..... Not exactly a lie but most definitely the whole truth .......

That should read.... Not exactly a lie but most definitely NOT the whole truth.

Sorry for any confusion

PS - what message are the 2 stars intended to convey, Angry?

[AngryRam]

Just spotted a typo in my "bus" post..... Not exactly a lie but most definitely the whole truth .......

That should read.... Not exactly a lie but most definitely NOT the whole truth.

Sorry for any confusion

PS - what message are the 2 stars intended to convey, Angry?

I completely agreed with your post. Stars was a teacher thing. I'm too subtle for here

[ramAnag]

I completely agreed with your post. Stars was a teacher thing. I'm too subtle for here

You have all the subtlety of a sledge hammer, Angry.

Perhaps you only looked at the picture and read the first sentence.

I may be wrong but I would have thought the sub-text of MA’s post was that, although sadly we have come to expect advertising to mislead and confuse...it is the job of politicians to act with integrity in providing clarification and honesty from which the public may then be in a position to judge and make an informed choice.

Glad you approve of that sentiment because it isn’t what happened in 2016 and it sure as hell ain’t happening now.

[MadAmster]

Also rA, I would expect people with something as potentially powerful as a vote would have the intelligence to understand the difference between what people say and what they actually mean.

[AngryRam]

You have all the subtlety of a sledge hammer, Angry.

Perhaps you only looked at the picture and read the first sentence.

I may be wrong but I would have thought the sub-text of MA’s post was that, although sadly we have come to expect advertising to mislead and confuse...it is the job of politicians to act with integrity in providing clarification and honesty from which the public may then be in a position to judge and make an informed choice.

Glad you approve of that sentiment because it isn’t what happened in 2016 and it sure as hell ain’t happening now.

It's Mr Angry to you... There was a picture ???? **** must have missed that.
Just going to polish my sledgehammer..

[AngryRam]

Also rA, I would expect people with something as potentially powerful as a vote would have the intelligence to understand the difference between what people say and what they actually mean.

I use the tried an trusted.. Eney Meeny Miny Mo selection criteria. Brilliant, give it a try at the next election (or Referendum).

[Trickytreesreds]

Back on the busgate scandal.

Cameron £9million propaganda book
900 000 unemployed- rising to 3 million
House prices halving
War in Europe
Emergency Brexit tax
No chance of a plan for an EU army


If only they'd told the truth? Maybe I would have voted remain, as I have obviously been taken in by a ****ing bus

[ramAnag]

Also rA, I would expect people with something as potentially powerful as a vote would have the intelligence to understand the difference between what people say and what they actually mean.

Hmmm...wish I had your faith, but I fear that might be an unrealistic expectation MA.

When waiting to vote at the 2010 election I stood behind a local man in his late fifties/sixties and his thirty something daughter.
They had to ask what to do...still I’m sure they have a better grasp of the complexities of Brexit and the workings of the EU than the last five Prime Ministers and a similar number of Chancellors.