Funny you should mention financial engineering, in 2007 wasn't it Leeds Utd that was declared insolvent and went under owing creditors around £30m, didn't you only ever pay back about 700k, you engineered yourselves out of that debt pretty well I think, but as a consequence Leeds Utd ceased to exist, wiped from the history books so theres at least some good came out of it, ha ha you only have 12 years worth of history and you've been sh it in all of that time, no wonder your all getting giddy and having nose bleeds, you've never been this high up before