What a prize f00kwit

[MadAmster]

Complete and utter tosspot.

In case the silly prat forgot...we did not actually break any rules and it was only Fat Franks constant bleating along with some pathetic club chairmen's moaning that we got fined.

I have to disagree with you on that. Prior to last season starting all clubs were issued with new guidelines on, among other things, sportsmanship and ethics. It was these new guidelines the EFL decided Leeds had broken. If I remember correctly, LUFC plead guilty to the charge or didn't contest the charge at any rate.

This isn't meant as red rag to a bull just to upset Leeds fans, merely an outlining of fact. Before anybody has a go at me for it, read my posts on this forum on the stupidity that occurred last Tuesday evening on the roads just outside Derby. I am in agreement with most of what has been written on this board over it.

[LeedsFTW]

I have to disagree with you on that. Prior to last season starting all clubs were issued with new guidelines on, among other things, sportsmanship and ethics. It was these new guidelines the EFL decided Leeds had broken. If I remember correctly, LUFC plead guilty to the charge or didn't contest the charge at any rate.

This isn't meant as red rag to a bull just to upset Leeds fans, merely an outlining of fact. Before anybody has a go at me for it, read my posts on this forum on the stupidity that occurred last Tuesday evening on the roads just outside Derby. I am in agreement with most of what has been written on this board over it.

Playing devils advocate, I don't think any club should be observing another's training session, regardless of it being allowed or not. However I will always maintain that Leeds broke no rules, other clubs do it all the time and we only played along with the fine and punishment to prevent the vindictive EFL from trying to impose a much harsher punishment.

What annoys me most, is that people conveniently forget, that Derby ran to the media with a lot of false information before they even contacted the EFL. Leeds were given the option by the EFL to bring charges against Derby for the way they acted i.e. trying to prejudice opinion and influence proceedings. Leeds declined to have Derby charged.

[cress]

I have to disagree with you on that. Prior to last season starting all clubs were issued with new guidelines on, among other things, sportsmanship and ethics. It was these new guidelines the EFL decided Leeds had broken. If I remember correctly, LUFC plead guilty to the charge or didn't contest the charge at any rate.

This isn't meant as red rag to a bull just to upset Leeds fans, merely an outlining of fact. Before anybody has a go at me for it, read my posts on this forum on the stupidity that occurred last Tuesday evening on the roads just outside Derby. I am in agreement with most of what has been written on this board over it.

You are completely wrong.

Those guidelines have absolutely nothing to do with our fine, in fact the EFL created new guidelines to prevent this from happening after our incident.
We "breached" rules about acting in good faith towards other clubs which is already a laughable entry in the book because of it being so vague. Norwich painting their dressing rooms to screw with their opponents or Derby County avoiding FFP problems with dodgy stadium deals is perfectly fine but if you dare to stand on a public footpath then god save you. If there are rules against it, fine, but apply it to everybody not just us.
Leeds didn't contest the charge because Bielsa pressed the club not to. He asked the club to accept the fine and he paid for it in full because he felt it was his responsibility.

[MadAmster]

You are completely wrong.

Those guidelines have absolutely nothing to do with our fine, in fact the EFL created new guidelines to prevent this from happening after our incident.
We "breached" rules about acting in good faith towards other clubs which is already a laughable entry in the book because of it being so vague. Norwich painting their dressing rooms to screw with their opponents or Derby County avoiding FFP problems with dodgy stadium deals is perfectly fine but if you dare to stand on a public footpath then god save you. If there are rules against it, fine, but apply it to everybody not just us.
Leeds didn't contest the charge because Bielsa pressed the club not to. He asked the club to accept the fine and he paid for it in full because he felt it was his responsibility.

Thanks for the info.

My first awareness of that incident was a report on the Derby Eveneing Telegraph website who had got the info from the police like they do with all incidents of which the police are made aware. Someone who lives opposite the training ground saw someone in the bushes (not on a footpath) and reported it to the police who went to the scene and found the LUFC employee in said bushes. The "story" did not originate from DCFC.

[Pacaman]

Thanks for the info.

My first awareness of that incident was a report on the Derby Eveneing Telegraph website who had got the info from the police like they do with all incidents of which the police are made aware. Someone who lives opposite the training ground saw someone in the bushes (not on a footpath) and reported it to the police who went to the scene and found the LUFC employee in said bushes. The "story" did not originate from DCFC.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...-crashing.html