Deal or No Deal

[1959_60]

Let's see what Boris brings back and then compare it with Theresa's deal eh?

I guarantee that only the backstop will have changed. Which was always there as a temporary "backstop" until someone dreamed something else up.

[outwoodclaret]

Let's see what Boris brings back and then compare it with Theresa's deal eh?

I guarantee that only the backstop will have changed. Which was always there as a temporary "backstop" until someone dreamed something else up.

It really doesn’t matter what deal if any Boris brings back whether it is a good deal or a bad deal the Remainers in Parliament will do their utmost to vote it down. Corbyn will claim he can offer a credible leave option which will be credible only to the man in the street in Luxembourg and even then he Corbyn will campaign against it. We are lucky indeed that this is not another country because we really would have Civil War.

[sinkov]

It really doesn’t matter what deal if any Boris brings back whether it is a good deal or a bad deal the Remainers in Parliament will do their utmost to vote it down.

I'm beginning to think this might happen, Varadkar seems to be onside with the Boris plan, they're still talking, Barnier is saying a deal is possible, the EU are now smelling their £39 billion, it's within touching distance, all they have to do is come up with a compromise to keep the DUP on board and the ERG will fall into line and a deal can be agreed and put to Parliament. And the thing is, it's within the power of the EU to ensure it passes this time, all they have to say is that there will be no further extensions, it's either this deal or no deal, and if you don't pass it then out you go with no deal. And which of the Remoan MPs are going to vote for no deal ? None of them, so the EU has us over a barrel, they get their money and they still have us by the short and curlies, it's BRINO, and we become their first colony.

Of course there may have to be a short extension to get all the legislation etc. through, but as long as the EU insists that's all the extension is for, and that's it, they've won. They are intransigent, awkward, self-interested and stubborn, but I cannot believe they will be so stupid as to let this chance of victory slip from their grasp, it just can't get any better than this outcome for them.

[army88]

That’s pretty accurate, we’re in a corner in the weakest position known to man, said it many times all the remoaners have done is weaken us and strengthen Brussels

[The Bedlington Terrier]

That’s pretty accurate, we’re in a corner in the weakest position known to man, said it many times all the remoaners have done is weaken us and strengthen Brussels

Speedo Mick rang me last night to say he will be put in charge of Customs Regulations in the Irish Sea. Apparently him and twenty of his synchronised swimming mates are swimming off from the Isle of Man soon to set up Johnson's new Customs post...

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[sinkov]

I'm beginning to think this might happen, Varadkar seems to be onside with the Boris plan, they're still talking, Barnier is saying a deal is possible, the EU are now smelling their £39 billion, it's within touching distance, all they have to do is come up with a compromise to keep the DUP on board and the ERG will fall into line and a deal can be agreed and put to Parliament. And the thing is, it's within the power of the EU to ensure it passes this time, all they have to say is that there will be no further extensions, it's either this deal or no deal, and if you don't pass it then out you go with no deal. And which of the Remoan MPs are going to vote for no deal ? None of them, so the EU has us over a barrel, they get their money and they still have us by the short and curlies, it's BRINO, and we become their first colony.

Of course there may have to be a short extension to get all the legislation etc. through, but as long as the EU insists that's all the extension is for, and that's it, they've won. They are intransigent, awkward, self-interested and stubborn, but I cannot believe they will be so stupid as to let this chance of victory slip from their grasp, it just can't get any better than this outcome for them.

The deal is all but done and dusted, but the media are wondering how Boris gets it through Parliament without the DUP and with Labour and the LibDems opposing it.

They need wonder no more, the EU have played their ace card, as I suggested above they would. Juncker is saying there will be no further extensions, it's Boris's deal or no deal. Let's see how the Remoaners get round that one.

[sinkov]

The deal is all but done and dusted, but the media are wondering how Boris gets it through Parliament without the DUP and with Labour and the LibDems opposing it.

They need wonder no more, the EU have played their ace card, as I suggested above they would. Juncker is saying there will be no further extensions, it's Boris's deal or no deal. Let's see how the Remoaners get round that one.

Bloody hell, Tusk has spoilt the fun, he says they'll have to consult, it's not down to Druncker. And I suppose technically they can't refuse us one until we actually ask. The seeds have been sown though, I'm hoping Macron chips in something similar to back up his mate, if they make it clear there will be no extension this will sail through parliament.

[1959_60]

Bloody hell, Tusk has spoilt the fun, he says they'll have to consult, it's not down to Druncker. And I suppose technically they can't refuse us one until we actually ask. The seeds have been sown though, I'm hoping Macron chips in something similar to back up his mate, if they make it clear there will be no extension this will sail through parliament.

BRINO Sinkov?

[sinkov]

Bloody hell, Tusk has spoilt the fun, he says they'll have to consult, it's not down to Druncker. And I suppose technically they can't refuse us one until we actually ask. The seeds have been sown though, I'm hoping Macron chips in something similar to back up his mate, if they make it clear there will be no extension this will sail through parliament.

"Speaking at a press conference this afternoon, the French President said “I don’t think a new extension should be granted”. Many EU leaders are less than thrilled at the prospect of an uncooperative UK sticking about past October and into the term of the new Commission."

You can always rely on the French, Macron wants out and no mistake.

[sinkov]

Let's see what Boris brings back and then compare it with Theresa's deal eh?

I guarantee that only the backstop will have changed. Which was always there as a temporary "backstop" until someone dreamed something else up.

No, I think you'll find the Backstop is permanent until we have agreed a trade deal, which will resolve the issue. This is why the Leavers wanted to negotiate a trade deal alongside the WA, then there would have been no need for any backstop. But the EU and the Remoaners went there own way, no leavers were allowed within a hundred miles of the negotiations, and we are where we are now, a right royal EU/Remoanian feck up.