Brexit Deal - Next Election?

[mickd1961]

Hi Stripes,

You are so right with what you’ve said but there’s a problem.

There are a huge number of people under 50 years of age have no personal memory of just how bad it was here in the 70’s.

All these “Snowflakes” and the others aged 20-50 who yearn for the Corbyn Marxist project to succeed have no idea what it’s like to be governed by a party totally dominated by the unions and groups like Momentum or the lot Derek Hatton was part of.

Funny how Hatton became a capitalist property developer when his political ambitions failed!

In the 70’s our school often had no heating due to coal strikes and power cuts so we had to wear winter coats in class and on many days we were told to stay at home.

During the winter months a lot of evenings at home there was no power so mum cooked by candlelight on our gas stove and we went to bed early under heaps of blankets.

We queued for bread during the bread strike........hours spent in the cold outside the local bakery waiting to get a loaf if you were lucky.

Every week some industry was on strike,the binmen and the funeral houses didn’t work and we had two months of rubbish piled feet high in the streets and the dead went unburied!

This is the catastrophic result of having incompetent Left Wingers in government.

Alas.....it does mean that every 15-20 years Labour does get into power because younger people with an idealistic view on life want “something different” and they give Labour a chance.....I was stupid enough to do it twice with Blair.

Then as most of them grow up,own a home,have kids,start a business they move away from Labour and put the Tory’s back in for 15-20 years to sort out the economy.

They then do that and always get the blame because they don’t flash the cash like Labour do.

Labour are a complete rabble and are not electable now or for a very long time if Momentum are still calling the shots as they do now.

The Dim Lemmings are unelectable because......we’ll because they’re the Dim Lemmings.

Swinson has managed to be more annoying than Wee Krankie in Scotland which is an achievement in itself.

The Left always make the mistake of being too much “Comrade” and too much “Righteous pomposity” in the case of the Libs.

The only way to win a majority is to be in the centre with a slight right leaning business agenda and a slightly left leaning social conscience.

It always amazes me that NO party ever nails this properly because it’s really not that difficult.

Even though I vote Tory now I’m still unhappy with the weak social conscience they show a lot of the time.

Overall though they are more acceptable than either of the others for a lot of us.

[WBA123]

Hi Stripes,

You are so right with what you’ve said but there’s a problem.

There are a huge number of people under 50 years of age have no personal memory of just how bad it was here in the 70’s.

All these “Snowflakes” and the others aged 20-50 who yearn for the Corbyn Marxist project to succeed have no idea what it’s like to be governed by a party totally dominated by the unions and groups like Momentum or the lot Derek Hatton was part of.

Funny how Hatton became a capitalist property developer when his political ambitions failed!

In the 70’s our school often had no heating due to coal strikes and power cuts so we had to wear winter coats in class and on many days we were told to stay at home.

During the winter months a lot of evenings at home there was no power so mum cooked by candlelight on our gas stove and we went to bed early under heaps of blankets.

We queued for bread during the bread strike........hours spent in the cold outside the local bakery waiting to get a loaf if you were lucky.

Every week some industry was on strike,the binmen and the funeral houses didn’t work and we had two months of rubbish piled feet high in the streets and the dead went unburied!

This is the catastrophic result of having incompetent Left Wingers in government.

Alas.....it does mean that every 15-20 years Labour does get into power because younger people with an idealistic view on life want “something different” and they give Labour a chance.....I was stupid enough to do it twice with Blair.

Then as most of them grow up,own a home,have kids,start a business they move away from Labour and put the Tory’s back in for 15-20 years to sort out the economy.

They then do that and always get the blame because they don’t flash the cash like Labour do.

Labour are a complete rabble and are not electable now or for a very long time if Momentum are still calling the shots as they do now.

The Dim Lemmings are unelectable because......we’ll because they’re the Dim Lemmings.

Swinson has managed to be more annoying than Wee Krankie in Scotland which is an achievement in itself.

The Left always make the mistake of being too much “Comrade” and too much “Righteous pomposity” in the case of the Libs.

The only way to win a majority is to be in the centre with a slight right leaning business agenda and a slightly left leaning social conscience.

It always amazes me that NO party ever nails this properly because it’s really not that difficult.

Even though I vote Tory now I’m still unhappy with the weak social conscience they show a lot of the time.

Overall though they are more acceptable than either of the others for a lot of us.

Whilst I wasn't around in the 70's and so can't comment, I struggle to see how any governing party has divided our society as much as the current one. And I'd be amazed if our public services were as crippled then as what they are now.

Having said that I do agree that centre line politics is where the Tories and Labour should really present themselves, but both are going the other way. I'm probably a centre-left voter, so I liked Tony Blair.

But other than that, that's where we probably don't agree any further.

In my opinion the youth of today are a shining light, they care about others, the economy and the environment. The demographics of the Brexit vote show you they are switched on. Whereas the over 50's have been subjected to decades of anti EU rhetoric and propaganda and have fallen victim to it. There are no benefits of Brexit, even the Govt's own Brexit department say we will be worse off - yet still many over 50's push it. Madness.

The youth will get us back in the EU, it may be in the next couple of years or in a couple of decades, but they will repair the damage that has been done - eventually. That gives me great hope for the future..

[stripes39]

The youth will get us back in the EU, it may be in the next couple of years or in a couple of decades, but they will repair the damage that has been done - eventually. That gives me great hope for the future..

That assumes there will be an EU to get us back in to.