O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[WanChaiMiller]

I assume from that reply you have not read the treaty. Here you go mate I suggest you read this and then come back and tell me that this document is what you consider to be fair to the UK!

https://assets.publishing.service.go..._Community.pdf

This document is a surrender document that ties us in to the EU until at least 2020 without a say what happens in the EU and continues to make laws and rule us with EU courts. It keeps us in free movement and the single market with NO WAY OUT unless the EU agrees we can leave.

We would have to pay our full membership fee and participate (in monetary terms only) with no say what happens to that money until at least 2020 and if the EU decide not to give us a deal by 2020 we would be tied in to the EU giving them full money until they decide to give us a deal! If ever.

And you say that is not an act of war....PMSL you and idiots like you have no clue.

An act of war!! You are bonkers.

[BigLadonOS]

An act of war!! You are bonkers.

Not armed war you plank but I guess your not even intelligent enough to work that one out.

[BigLadonOS]

An act of war!! You are bonkers.

So I gather that you have not read it then?

[great_fire]

Trump hysteria, Remainer hysteria, not see anything like it since Princess Diana died, in a few years they are going to be terribly embarrassed by their behaviour, at least I hope so.

[rolymiller]

Thought it was time to bring this back because Brexit day is looming now..er sort of...

Boris and the EU think so anyway...not so sure about DUP and the other parties though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50079385

One thing though if a deal is done it will be the end of the Brexit Party and the odious Mr Farage so that is one positive. It will also have implications for the next general election, Whether the potential Brexit party voters return to their particular Tory or Labour fold though will be debateable. I suspect some will but many will not vote either again. In which case who would they vote for if at all?

In any case what are the implications now for a vote of no confidence in the H of c if a deal is done?

Still interesting times politically and the story is still to run on even if there is an agreement...

My film producer is preparing for the sequel...

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

What this country needs is for us to stay in the EU and vote in a Labour government with Jeremy Corbyn as PM

That's the only way the thick feckers will learn...........the hard way

[rolymiller]

Think if the deal is voted down again in h of p there will be a vote of no confidence in the govt and an interim govt will take its place. Not sure who will head this but I can't see opposition MPS trusting Boris to extend. Once this is done there will be a general election very shortly.

After that Brexit will be in the lap of the gods...which means this could go on for yonks yet. Why not wait and let the EU come to its natural end which won't be that long its dying a slow death anyway...

[sawmiller]

DUP can be bought - £5bn of our money should do it

[rolymiller]

Yep that would not surprise me one bit...

[ragingpup]

Think if the deal is voted down again in h of p there will be a vote of no confidence in the govt and an interim govt will take its place. Not sure who will head this but I can't see opposition MPS trusting Boris to extend. Once this is done there will be a general election very shortly.

After that Brexit will be in the lap of the gods...which means this could go on for yonks yet. Why not wait and let the EU come to its natural end which won't be that long its dying a slow death anyway...

Can't really see much difference between May's deal and Johnson's, apart from the Irish Sea border which is huge if you're a loyalist. All other things seem to be some extra barriers to trade and some minor adjustments to terminology but essentially May's deal.

Seems to be more customs barriers on this though with scrapping of commitment to single customs territory- Prices will be hit by tariffs unless they meet "rules of origin" checks.

Interesting that the EU have agreed to 'kick the can' of the 'level playing field' into the political declaration (or FTA as it's now come to be known even though it's the same!) giving the ERG and it's backers the impression that they can strip back on workers/consumer/environmental rights in order to undercut the EU in world trade. However, I'm sure will also mean opposition from Labour even though there is little chance that the EU will make any allowances for this to happen in the FTA. But importantly, it gives the corporate backers the illusion that something might happen to cut back these protections as opposed to it being worded into the WA. So the ERG might back it and see it through.

Same deal as May's though in all but the Irish Sea border (which "No UK PM could agree to" said May!) and making it more expensive to trade in more areas. Just that little bit worse (or appalling if you're a loyalist). Interesting to hear what the anti-BRINO group think?