O/T - general election 2019

[Silly-miller]

Childcare at present is available from the age of three and it’s not exactly free. There’s all sorts of rules and regs and conditions attached to it. Gross earnings, nett earnings, hours worked, nationality.
They should reduce Uni fees but bit by bit over a period of time and make them interet free if they’re not already. No kids should leave Uni in loads of debt.
Nationalisation - they ought to take Royal Mail back, sold on the cheap and now there’s talk of strike action. There’s been problems with Royal Mail since it was privatised.
Some of the Rail franchises are a mess.its legal to re-nationalise but can be costly.
They would have to raise tax bands for those above 80k and 100k and raise CorporationTax,the rest would have to be borrowed.

How do you think the Torys are going to pay for their Manifesto.?

Not seen it yet mate il slag that off too when I see it don’t worry the only difference will be brexit in this election all the rest is hot air

[howdydoo]

Childcare at present is available from the age of three and it’s not exactly free. There’s all sorts of rules and regs and conditions attached to it. Gross earnings, nett earnings, hours worked, nationality.
They should reduce Uni fees but bit by bit over a period of time and make them interet free if they’re not already. No kids should leave Uni in loads of debt.
Nationalisation - they ought to take Royal Mail back, sold on the cheap and now there’s talk of strike action. There’s been problems with Royal Mail since it was privatised.
Some of the Rail franchises are a mess.its legal to re-nationalise but can be costly.
They would have to raise tax bands for those above 80k and 100k and raise CorporationTax,the rest would have to be borrowed.

How do you think the Torys are going to pay for their Manifesto.?

Uni fees should be free for the top performers at state schools. Unfortunately it seems any average student attends Uni these days.

They get into debt and can’t pay it off. The degree for some obscure course and lack of common sense ends up as pointless, in the grand scheme of things.

By all means carry on, if Mummy and Daddy want to fund it,

[Galley On]

Massive respect to the lib dems for being the only party with a clear message on Brexit, while all the other parties are hedging their bets and trying to schmooze a vote out of everyone by being vague.

Voted Labour all my life but the Lib dems are much more Socialist now than the elite middle class bigots of the Labour party.

I voted leave but I will vote Lib Dems for the first time simply because they have got the
b alls to put their cards on the table.

Hopefully the Labour party will be destroyed once and for all and a new party for working people, run by working people will emerge from the ashes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXgV6BY2qWY

[ragingpup]

I didn’t know he had a manifesto yet

Labour manifesto

Living wage to £10 - that’s nice but companies will just stick prices up to cover wages leaving us the same as we are now.

30 hrs free childcare for 2- 4 year olds isn’t child care free anyway? I wouldn’t know so I’m not sure ��

Scrap tuition fees - what on school isn’t school free anyway or uni? If it’s uni how will they pay for all that money, under half of our gdp comes from uni fees

Renationalisation of water rail and mail honestly if you believe they can get the money to do that and be legally able to do that your as thick as Alan Stubbs hiring old blackstock

Negotiate with Eu for a new deal keeping us in customs and in Eu courts and part of Eu army and vote on that deal or remain?

Come on they don’t give a **** about us Yorkshire lads

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Living wage to £10 - that’s nice but companies will just stick prices up to cover wages leaving us the same as we are now.

They said that when the LW was introduced. But it had a minimal effect:

https://www.economicshelp.org/labour.../minimum-wage/

But do you really think that this is an “extremist” policy? Is it the policy of having any LW minimum identified an extreme? Or is it just £10? Or £9 extremist? £8 extremist? Where is your crossingpoint for where the LW is reasonable and then suddenly becomes extremist??


30 hrs free childcare for 2- 4 year olds isn’t child care free anyway? I wouldn’t know so I’m not sure

What are you saying here? That this is an extremist policy? Are the conservative government who brought this in 2 years ago then “extremist”? (although they nicked the policy from Labour!)



Scrap tuition fees - what on school isn’t school free anyway or uni? If it’s uni how will they pay for all that money, under half of our gdp comes from uni fees

You think that free tutition for HE is an extremist policy? Are Norway, Finland, Germany, Sweden, France – who all offer free HE – all extremist too?



Renationalisation of water rail and mail honestly if you believe they can get the money to do that and be legally able to do that your as thick as Alan Stubbs hiring old blackstock

Again, if nationalising key industries is extremist. Do you agree that Germany, Sweden, Nederlands, Italy, Spain, France are all extremists? All these have over 80% national ownership of Rail networks: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...g-9960432.html
And this for other EU countries that nationalise key industries: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a7731961.html
Are they extremists also?


Negotiate with Eu for a new deal keeping us in customs and in Eu courts and part of Eu army and vote on that deal or remain?
You’ve put this in here so I assume that you think that negotiating a customs union/EU is an extremist policy? I understand that but you will find that Labour are equally under fire from Remainers for being too extreme on the Leave side. So yes, I guess Labour are extremists from both Leaver and Remainer point of view. But most of these accusers are extremists themselves so what the hell

[Silly-miller]

Living wage to £10 - that’s nice but companies will just stick prices up to cover wages leaving us the same as we are now.

They said that when the LW was introduced. But it had a minimal effect:

https://www.economicshelp.org/labour.../minimum-wage/

But do you really think that this is an “extremist” policy? Is it the policy of having any LW minimum identified an extreme? Or is it just £10? Or £9 extremist? £8 extremist? Where is your crossingpoint for where the LW is reasonable and then suddenly becomes extremist??


30 hrs free childcare for 2- 4 year olds isn’t child care free anyway? I wouldn’t know so I’m not sure

What are you saying here? That this is an extremist policy? Are the conservative government who brought this in 2 years ago then “extremist”? (although they nicked the policy from Labour!)



Scrap tuition fees - what on school isn’t school free anyway or uni? If it’s uni how will they pay for all that money, under half of our gdp comes from uni fees

You think that free tutition for HE is an extremist policy? Are Norway, Finland, Germany, Sweden, France – who all offer free HE – all extremist too?



Renationalisation of water rail and mail honestly if you believe they can get the money to do that and be legally able to do that your as thick as Alan Stubbs hiring old blackstock

Again, if nationalising key industries is extremist. Do you agree that Germany, Sweden, Nederlands, Italy, Spain, France are all extremists? All these have over 80% national ownership of Rail networks: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...g-9960432.html
And this for other EU countries that nationalise key industries: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a7731961.html
Are they extremists also?


Negotiate with Eu for a new deal keeping us in customs and in Eu courts and part of Eu army and vote on that deal or remain?
You’ve put this in here so I assume that you think that negotiating a customs union/EU is an extremist policy? I understand that but you will find that Labour are equally under fire from Remainers for being too extreme on the Leave side. So yes, I guess Labour are extremists from both Leaver and Remainer point of view. But most of these accusers are extremists themselves so what the hell

I think your a couple french fries short of a happy meal with this post pup iv not called him a extremist at all that’s all propaganda (Lies that’s been twisted by a strand of truth) and I know that your probably quoting a previous quote and I ask you to re read it however I have called labour anti democratic lying sacks of crap who are no better than Tory’s and my opinion on that won’t change.

You say sticking prices up will have minimal effect? Don’t you remember when wage increased last time I do food prices shot up. If you want to increase money to the people you have to do it from two sides high wage and discounted fuel for lorry’s for example. You can’t tax the rich and expect the normal people not to feel a backlash you have to balance the scales, yes there are ways to do it look at the drug companies in us they want more money yes it will increase the price of drugs but if we had free trade with USA the taxes we would save would balance it out. Without balance in economy giving £10 in minimum wage will ether see prices going up or 1 in 4 people fired to make the wage limit.

Don’t believe me then name me a major business that didn’t make as much as the year before and kept the same amount of stores and staff? THERE ISNT ONE. It’s always the people who take a cut not the rich no matter what

As for his stance on brexit a referendum on a customs/ close ties with EU and remain is the same fking thing that’s why I’m so against it. It’s deal or no deal there’s no way I’m supporting a ny form of remain

[Exiletyke]

I didn’t know he had a manifesto yet

Labour manifesto

Living wage to £10 - that’s nice but companies will just stick prices up to cover wages leaving us the same as we are now.

30 hrs free childcare for 2- 4 year olds isn’t child care free anyway? I wouldn’t know so I’m not sure ��

Scrap tuition fees - what on school isn’t school free anyway or uni? If it’s uni how will they pay for all that money, under half of our gdp comes from uni fees

Renationalisation of water rail and mail honestly if you believe they can get the money to do that and be legally able to do that your as thick as Alan Stubbs hiring old blackstock

Negotiate with Eu for a new deal keeping us in customs and in Eu courts and part of Eu army and vote on that deal or remain?

Come on they don’t give a **** about us Yorkshire lads

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Sajid Javid has signalled the government’s intention to woo low-paid workers in the forthcoming general election by announcing plans to increase the “national living wage” to £10.50 an hour.

The chancellor said his new five-year target to raise the national living wage and reduce the age at which people could receive it from 25 to 21 meant the Conservatives were now the “workers’ party”. The changes would benefit 4 million people.





Just for balance

[Silly-miller]

Sajid Javid has signalled the government’s intention to woo low-paid workers in the forthcoming general election by announcing plans to increase the “national living wage” to £10.50 an hour.

The chancellor said his new five-year target to raise the national living wage and reduce the age at which people could receive it from 25 to 21 meant the Conservatives were now the “workers’ party”. The changes would benefit 4 million people.





Just for balance

No idea how they will stop business putting prices up or firing people ether unless they are going to give rich tax cuts or something iv no idea but unless they balance the flow of money that won’t make a difference ether

[Exiletyke]

No idea how they will stop business putting prices up or firing people ether unless they are going to give rich tax cuts or something iv no idea but unless they balance the flow of money that won’t make a difference ether

Fear not the Free market will decide

[Brin]

They are all self-serving oppotunists. All hoping to eventually jump on the Euro parliament gravy train, as the Blairs and Kinnocks did. That's why they are desperate to hang in there. None of them are worthy of the great power we give them.
Time was that Labour leaders were hewn from the Unions and grassroots. Now they are Oxbridge graduates, hitching their wagons to any convenient party.
This last few years has shown the true democracy that people at the top believe in. When I lived in the Town constituency, I voted independent. Now my constituency has only the three main parties, so God knows what the choice is there. Any MP who's views differ from their constituents on Brexit should have had the backbone and honour to resign.

Jocks, apologies but I’ve re read your post and have to say you have it summed up to perfection.

[rolymiller]

Uni fees should be free for the top performers at state schools. Unfortunately it seems any average student attends Uni these days.

They get into debt and can’t pay it off. The degree for some obscure course and lack of common sense ends up as pointless, in the grand scheme of things.

By all means carry on, if Mummy and Daddy want to fund it,

So its ok for average performers with rich mums and dads to send them to uni? How is that fair? Why should an average rich kid have a better chance of a leg up than a poor kid?

I appeal to your sense of fairness in my question howdy...