O/T - general election 2019

[ragingpup]

I suppose if riled I was it was the "entire family" bilge; brought visions of lots of little ragings running around doing good. My own view is that charities are primarily intended to provide employment for the children of the middle classes. I doubt they do any good at all for their supposed recipients. Other than providing well paid jobs it's all about salving the consciences of liberal middle class professionals.

My little raging is only 7 so no work for her yet 'good' or no. But 5 years of Boris might have her up chimneys.

Charities only provide work for children of middle classes? Blimey. Of those that work for charities, brother is son of Rotherham steel worker, his wife daughter of production line operator, and he has 2 kids both in charity and public services. They from middle class family? Tell that to me bro, he'd batter you, ya bitter old pseudo academic :-)

[KerrAvon]

Never met Wilson, Callaghan or Healey.
Did meet John Smith ( RIP ) a couple of weeks before he had his massive heart attack and passed away.
Met Tony Blair just as he became leader and prior to his 97 landslide. Sold me a ' dream ' of what he wanted to do and after three terms of Thatcherism it was time for a change.
Went off Blair when he forgot to increase the Minimum wage as he should have done and left it to stagnate.
Mo Mowlam ought to have got more credit for Peace in Northern Ireland.
Had a lot of time for Gordon Brown despite his " bigot " remark he made.

I get the neolibrism bit but if it's a choice of the Thatcher years, Blair / Brown years or more years of Boris Johnson I know which I would rather have.

Dennis Healey was an interesting bloke and possibly the best Prime Minister that this country never had. After the IMF persuaded the Labour government that endlessly printing money was not a good idea in 1976, Healey was turning the ship around until the TUs made Labour unelectable in 1979 and delivered the lurch to the left that made them unelectable for nigh on twenty years.

It was a tragedy that John Smith never got a crack at leading the country too.

It's pretty sad the way the Labour Party now disowns the Blair/Brown governments (unless they are relying upon their tenure to support the notion that Labour governments are financially prudent). They made mistakes (believing their own hype might have been at the root of it), but were generally sound. The writing was on the wall as soon as Brown took over from Blair. Brown was a decent chancellor, but not a great PM. You only need to compare Blair to Brown to understand the difference between leadership and management.

[Exiletyke]

drip,drip,drip

[rolymiller]

Well, well farage to start new party after election the reform party. What next raving loony loony party he would do well with that one. There is no end to what he will do to try to get a nutter party into the h of p.

[rolymiller]

Grist, the world is quickly going mad and certainly losing a sense of perspective. Placido Domingo hounded out of Covent garden and the Met for upsetting some second rate snowflake. Today on the BBC news all day the second or third story on each bulletin was some Man City fan making monkey gestures at Man Utd players. Do gooders, politicians, police, anti-racist spokespeople and Kick It Out wastrels all on to say how shocking. Pathetic.

You really have got it in for black people havent you monts. A bit pathetic really. Did a black guy nick your girlfriend or summat. It is really irrational the stuff you come out with on here. It's like having our very own millers and Alf Garnett and what a pillock he came across as a character on TV.

[rolymiller]

Thankfully you represent the views of a tiny minority of society. Hope you are proud...

[rolymiller]

...or maybe you choked once on a black jelly baby. You really need 5o explain to us your irrational fear of black people or go to Dr kempo he will have a cure in sure.

[ragingpup]

Dennis Healey was an interesting bloke and possibly the best Prime Minister that this country never had. After the IMF persuaded the Labour government that endlessly printing money was not a good idea in 1976, Healey was turning the ship around until the TUs made Labour unelectable in 1979 and delivered the lurch to the left that made them unelectable for nigh on twenty years.

It was a tragedy that John Smith never got a crack at leading the country too.

It's pretty sad the way the Labour Party now disowns the Blair/Brown governments (unless they are relying upon their tenure to support the notion that Labour governments are financially prudent). They made mistakes (believing their own hype might have been at the root of it), but were generally sound. The writing was on the wall as soon as Brown took over from Blair. Brown was a decent chancellor, but not a great PM. You only need to compare Blair to Brown to understand the difference between leadership and management.

A tragedy that John Smith never got a crack at leading the country? Even though he proposed a top rate of 50p in the pound?

So why do you feel that such tax proposals are economic suicide now?

[Redshank]

The NHS is undoubtedly under pressure, funding could be better and more people (many born outside the U.K.) put more pressure on it. However the NHS does a great job, its staff being highly commendable, so on today’s BBC web page under election coverage the headline is “General Election 2019: working in the NHS feels sometimes unbearable”

We know it’s hard in the NHS, but still there are GPS retiring at 50 because they don’t financially need to work anymore.

So do we get a well balanced “ make your own mind up” report from the BBC, no we get the emotive stuff that the sheep lap up.

Perhaps if you were exposed to the "emotive stuff" and a standard of care bordering on criminal negligence you may think differently.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Perhaps if you were exposed to the "emotive stuff" and a standard of care bordering on criminal negligence you may think differently.

I think you're missing the point.

The article wasn't an examination of the NHS, good or bad. The BBC had got it under Election Coverage. As such it should be a balanced look, not emotive stuff about certain (no doubt carefully selected) individuals within it.