O/T - general election 2019

[Silly-miller]

Yes but there's much more right wing propaganda because of the right leaning media & if you can't see that then I'm afraid you are in denial

I don’t think I’m in denial and I’m not sure that your right with media

Left iv noticed

Mirror
Guardian
Yorkshire post
The observer
Star
The independent

Right

Mail
Times
Express
The sun

As for tv I think bbc and channel 4 is more labour and Lib dumbs but I think sky news is more Tory as for ITV I think they are the only neutral channel

[Exiletyke]

In my (very recent) experience, a balanced look would be much more "emotive". I've witnessed first hand stuff over the last week that, to be quite honest, scares me sh;tless. Whatever the reason for it, the standard of care -in my experience- has steadily declined over the last 10 years to the point of casual negligence being accepted as the norm. That's not a political point, it's based on what I've seen; regular, repeat treatment/care of a loved one which started about 10 years ago. This is one hospital in South Yorkshire, if the sort of stuff I've seen is endemic within the NHS as a whole then there's no avoiding being emotive when "looking at it"

Agree with thay Redshank
We need people who speak with emotion We are becoming devoid of it

[Exiletyke]

[QUOTE=CASPER-64-FRANK;39379582]

I take notice of a relative of mine whose mid-stage Parkinson's . The care and I use the word care loosely isn't care at all . He pays towards his CARE in the home and it's not fit for purpose.
It's one but not the only reason I don't vote Tory.
Brexit doesn't bother me, they can walk away without a deal as far as I'm concerned.

Despite Jack Merrits father telling politicians not to make political gain from his death some of them couldn't wait to do so.

We were discussing the media weren't we
I too have family experience of so called "care" homes Not fit for purpose is right

[CASPER-64-FRANK]

[QUOTE=Exiletyke;39379603]

We were discussing the media weren't we
I too have family experience of so called "care" homes Not fit for purpose is right

You're missing my point Exile.
Take no notice of the media, use your own personal experiences and make your own mind up.
Over the past 40 years the Tories have done very little for me or my family. Everything I've got I've earned.
My wife and I are due a pension rise......yippee..after extra tax, increase of Council Tax, higher water rates, electricity, gas, increased house insurance etc, etc..we won't be any better off.

Anyone that's done okay with the Tories are hardly likely to be rushing to vote Labour.

[WanChaiMiller]

Can you name me one eployee of the BBC who supports Brexit?

Andrew Neil.

[mikemiller]

Don't vote for commie Corbyn who always sides with Britains enemies, Russia, Hamas, Hezbollah, the IRA etc. He would bankrupt our economy, decimate our Armed Forces. Champion of the working classes, I don't think so, he has never worked in his life, just an embarrassment in politics. I am not a Tory but a Veteran and one who loves our country, keep him out.

A veteran what exactly? Steam engine? Not quite sure what you are if you are not a Tory, given the other stuff you have written (I dread to think really!)
Are you implying that the army did a thorough job of brain-washing you? As Spike Milligan said "We've got the enemy fooled, Sir. They think that we're the enemy!"

I'm voting Labour

[ragingpup]

I don’t think I’m in denial and I’m not sure that your right with media

Left iv noticed

Mirror
Guardian
Yorkshire post
The observer
Star
The independent

Right

Mail
Times
Express
The sun

As for tv I think bbc and channel 4 is more labour and Lib dumbs but I think sky news is more Tory as for ITV I think they are the only neutral channel

Little bit fanciful there with the Yorkshire Post being part of the MM?!

The Star left wing?! Lol

The Observer is part of the Guardian

You've missed the Telgraph


So I make it:

Left wing:
Mirror

Centre Left
Guardian
Independent

Centre Right
The Times
Sunday Times
Financial Times

Right Wing
Express
Mail
The Sun
The Telegraph


I'm still getting loads of lefties moaning about the Beeb being pro-Tory with just the same indigence shown by right wing in here. They cancel each other out for me.

The bigger problem for Labour is the popular right wing papers (Sun, Mail and Express) have a comparatively huge readership, especially of their websites, and all three are repeatedly proven to falsify information to further their political views. The Mirror does the same on the left, but their reach is tiny compared to the right wing fibbers, the propaganda wing of the conservative party. That's the real problem: millions are getting very biased, slanted news stories that support the Conservative cause.

[Exiletyke]

[QUOTE=CASPER-64-FRANK;39379607]

You're missing my point Exile.
Take no notice of the media, use your own personal experiences and make your own mind up.
Over the past 40 years the Tories have done very little for me or my family. Everything I've got I've earned.
My wife and I are due a pension rise......yippee..after extra tax, increase of Council Tax, higher water rates, electricity, gas, increased house insurance etc, etc..we won't be any better off.

Anyone that's done okay with the Tories are hardly likely to be rushing to vote Labour.

Unlike you or I what if you haven't got the benefit of these personal experiences
Such people & there are millions will I'm afraid be influenced by the media
Isn't this how the Royal Family would seem to be popular & supported by the majority of the Nation .I don't think the majority do support them

[CASPER-64-FRANK]

[QUOTE=Exiletyke;39379621]

Unlike you or I what if you haven't got the benefit of these personal experiences
Such people & there are millions will I'm afraid be influenced by the media
Isn't this how the Royal Family would seem to be popular & supported by the majority of the Nation .I don't think the majority do support them

Most people have personal experiences, even the younger generation
People should take notice of Nigel Farage when he keeps saying the deal BJ has negotiated isn't Brexit at all.
Michel Barnier has stuck his nose in now, it's not going to be a happy ending for some.
There's going to be more compromises than some people think.

[Exiletyke]

[QUOTE=CASPER-64-FRANK;39379637]

Most people have personal experiences, even the younger generation
People should take notice of Nigel Farage when he keeps saying the deal BJ has negotiated isn't Brexit at all.
Michel Barnier has stuck his nose in now, it's not going to be a happy ending for some.
There's going to be more compromises than some people think.

Ok Frank let me put this to you
How do people form an opinion on the Royal Family
No experience at all old or yong but we are fed a constant pro Royal narrative
Never underestimate the power of the news media