O/T - general election 2019

[ragingpup]

The EU have a worry that we become a Singapore-on- Thames with a light economy, it puts them at a disadvantage.
What jobs are you expecting pup ?
We have a distinct lack of Skilled / Semi Skilled, very few apprenticeships being created.
Boris has to deliver on domestic issues not only Brexit.
He's already stated no Tax, National Insurance, VAT rises in this present Parliament.
Let's see how much Javed has in the coffers or how much the Tories borrow before making rash judgements.

I'm lucky all my kids and son-in-laws are in good employment

Was just hoping that the trade deal, once struck, if stuck, doesn't cost jobs is all. Certainly don't think that it will create any new ones.

[animallittle3]

Was just hoping that the trade deal, once struck, if stuck, doesn't cost jobs is all. Certainly don't think that it will create any new ones.

I'm sure any new investment on jobs will be fast tracked up here to the new tory heartlands raging , got to keep the voters happy .

Oh aye ........... !!!!

[kentmillerman]

Too true crash.

[Nardendee]

Nicola Sturgeon.........something fishy about her.

Hope Boris puts her in her plaice.

[WanChaiMiller]

I’ll make it £100 if Ragingpup and Wanchaimiller put £50 in each for the cause and be happy to do so.

Neither of them had any objection to paying higher taxes, so it shouldn’t be a problem 🤔

Don’t hold your breath. We’ll just wait for the excuses or the, ‘who are you to dictate how I spend my money’ .... the irony.

At least Wanchai realises the Brexit party actually assisted Labour in the Northern Heartlands.

It could have been a lot worse. If McCluskey get’s his way, still time for that.

Still funniest thing in this election was

Jo Swinson

Oblivious. Irrelevant and complete waste of space.

Dont hold your breath for what? To see if I enter your p*ssing contest?

[caytonmiller]

Was just hoping that the trade deal, once struck, if stuck, doesn't cost jobs is all. Certainly don't think that it will create any new ones.

At least we have got the Tories and Brexit to blame

[wendun]

It could have been a lot worse. If McCluskey get’s his way, still time for that.

I think Howdy may be right here. I and several people I know only decided to vote Labour when it was clear the Tories would win in the hope of limiting BJ's victory.
The possibility must be that BJ may actually follow through on his promises and put some investment into former Labour areas. I would then expect more areas to go Blue at the next election. The Labour Party only came into existence as the political agent of the Trade Unions. Economic and social change has made it an irrelevance. I would not be surprised to see it morph completely into a radical socialist party with 20-50 seats.

[WanChaiMiller]

I think Howdy may be right here. I and several people I know only decided to vote Labour when it was clear the Tories would win in the hope of limiting BJ's victory.
The possibility must be that BJ may actually follow through on his promises and put some investment into former Labour areas. I would then expect more areas to go Blue at the next election. The Labour Party only came into existence as the political agent of the Trade Unions. Economic and social change has made it an irrelevance. I would not be surprised to see it morph completely into a radical socialist party with 20-50 seats.

Mine was a fairly late decision to vote Labour for exactly those reasons.

I had a discussion yesterday that if BJ carries out his promises it will be good for the north. Like he said the Tories loaned the Labour vote - now its up to him to make the move permanent. Hes up in the North today, so, fair do's, hes not celebrating in London.

They played a brilliant hand in this election. Light on policy, heavy on brexit. No baggage of policy promises to stymie them in government. Labour made all the promises that would have acted like a noose.

I hear Rees Mogg will be sacked so we wont have the threat of ERG hanging over us. I can see why he needed Mogg on board in the election. I hope this means the Tories will position centre right.

Boris is a reluctant brexiteer (in that he switched allegiance over the support the Leave campaign late in the day). He has said all along we should leave with a deal. He now has the backing in parliament to see this through.

In 2016 he was in a contest with Cameron to gain control of the party. He has won that battle.

Do I trust him? Yes I think I do.

This is the end of Labour. No party has won an election on hard left policy. Like you say it will become a marginal party of activists that probably suits the Corbyn mentality.

[wendun]

WanChai, I take comfort that you and I have some similar views on this and that's an excellent rational appraisal.

[KerrAvon]

Yesterday, McCluskey told the Huffington Post that Labour’s defeat was partly down to a 'failure to apologise for anti-Semitism in the party when pressed to do so, capping years of mishandling of this question'.

Two years ago, he was arguing that there was no such problem:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rty-dark-place

One assumes that this means that either McCluskey has problems with his memory or that he is getting ready to throw Corbyn under a bus for failing to deliver the revolution.