O/T Next Labour Leader thread

[mellowmiller]

Not as much as him being a bit uninspiring. But happy to hear him in debates if they ever get around to any!

I actually quite like Starmer but, like you, I can't see him as an inspirational leader who will unite the party.
I had to smile when someone on a satirical radio programme said he always looks as though he's about to be arrested 🙂. Check it out and you'll see that it's true.

[great_fire]

What are you like you old dog?! You make a big old statement that Nandy has an identity politics agenda, and when asked for evidence, provides nothing of the sort and instead throws in two other reasons why she shouldn’t be elected.

She mentions being mixed-race/ a woman all the time, that is identity politics.

One example:

https://labourlist.org/2018/04/lisa-...olitics-today/

[ragingpup]

She mentions being mixed-race/ a woman all the time, that is identity politics.

One example:

https://labourlist.org/2018/04/lisa-...olitics-today/

Lol

In the article she doesn't mention women once!

I suppose you have Sajid Javid down as an identity politician when he talks about his his background and race issues:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49041014

Come on, allow people to voice issues, uncomfortable as they might be for you, without jumping to label them. If you do you're just doing the same as the extreme identity political folks who try to shut down discussion with labeling of their own, which you very much do resent.

[great_fire]

Lol

In the article she doesn't mention women once!

I suppose you have Sajid Javid down as an identity politician when he talks about his his background and race issues:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49041014

Come on, allow people to voice issues, uncomfortable as they might be for you, without jumping to label them. If you do you're just doing the same as the extreme identity political folks who try to shut down discussion with labeling of their own, which you very much do resent.

Because that article is about race.

Here's one from her praising all-women shortlists and supporting positive discrimination to favour women:

https://fabians.org.uk/rising-voices...n-up-politics/

She's long been obsessed with identity politics like many on the left and in the Labour Party.

We don't all have memories like goldfish and forgot that because she's trying to present herself as different for the rest of them to try and get chosen as leader.

[Silly-miller]

She mentions being mixed-race/ a woman all the time, that is identity politics.

One example:

https://labourlist.org/2018/04/lisa-...olitics-today/

Unfortunately some people only vote on race or what colour ribbon they wear at an election, still don’t make her a bad choice. When I look at her and look at pompous Keir RLB and Thornberry who are legally trained, millionaires and remainers its like night and day.

[great_fire]

Unfortunately some people only vote on race or what colour ribbon they wear at an election, still don’t make her a bad choice. When I look at her and look at pompous Keir RLB and Thornberry who are legally trained, millionaires and remainers its like night and day.

It's a false front she's putting on, she doesn't come across as awful as Thornberry but her politics are exactly the same.

Remainer, identitarian, feminista, open borders fanatic.

[ragingpup]

Because that article is about race.

Here's one from her praising all-women shortlists and supporting positive discrimination to favour women:

https://fabians.org.uk/rising-voices...n-up-politics/

She's long been obsessed with identity politics like many on the left and in the Labour Party.

We don't all have memories like goldfish and forgot that because she's trying to present herself as different for the rest of them to try and get chosen as leader.

That just reads like an argument for someone arguing for a change for the better, backed up with lots of evidence as to why it those changes would be beneficial in removing barriers to talent getting into positions of power instead of less talented people that end up in power by their gender. Seems sensible to me. Does that make me a loony 'identarian' (nice word!) or just someone putting forward a positive viewpoint into a discussion, and finding myself branded with a label?

Would be funny if you weren't so hysterical about how other people so easily 'label' others as a means of shutting down their arguments.

[Silly-miller]

It's a false front she's putting on, she doesn't come across as awful as Thornberry but her politics are exactly the same.

Remainer, identitarian, feminista, open borders fanatic.

Iv not seen feminista and her voting record says she’s voted mostly to leave Eu (I have checked fella) and if you comparing fanatics she looks like mother Teresa compared to other 3

Thornberry is a self absorbed egotistical bitch who thinks everyone who don’t agree with her are idiots and if you say something she don’t like she will sue you. Yeah I can see her as PM now freedom of speech illegal and a tyrant for pm

RLB is corbyn who’s been to Thailand for a change with her as PM we will renationalise everything followed by her mask coming off to reveal corbyns ugly mug.

Sir Keir will be more Tory than maggy thatcher he’s a business man with a law degree how the hell is he even in the Labour Party. I can see it now taxes on elderly and tax cuts for businesses.

Three out of 4 are remoaners who haven’t voted for brexit at all the other is proud of her mixed race and that she’s a woman. Btw Thornberry and RLB both have flaunted there womanhood too. Personally I think it’s whoever is best for the job who can Unite all labour voters, but hey if you prefer a man because you don’t like strong woman I understand 😉

[ragingpup]

I actually quite like Starmer but, like you, I can't see him as an inspirational leader who will unite the party.
I had to smile when someone on a satirical radio programme said he always looks as though he's about to be arrested 🙂. Check it out and you'll see that it's true.

Lol. Yeah, completely get that. He has a face that can quite easily be made to look a bit bemused given the right still frame. Quite a powerful tool for our press pals at election time! But he has a good brain and reads opponents well. Political brain in need of inspiring orator!

[Silly-miller]

Lol. Yeah, completely get that. He has a face that can quite easily be made to look a bit bemused given the right still frame. Quite a powerful tool for our press pals at election time! But he has a good brain and reads opponents well. Political brain in need of inspiring orator!

Problem is can he win back those labour voters who voted Tory due to his brexit policy?