South Yorkshire Police Today

[great_fire]

The police in this country only solve 7.8% of crimes now, whereas Canada, with fewer police, solve 41%, these new, PC, university-educated coppers don't seem to be doing too well.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

The police in this country only solve 7.8% of crimes now, whereas Canada, with fewer police, solve 41%, these new, PC, university-educated coppers don't seem to be doing too well.

Fast tracking can sometimes mean that idiots are fast tracked to positions beyond their capabilities. But the boxes are all ticked.

[Pattylallacks2]

Fast tracking can sometimes mean that idiots are fast tracked to positions beyond their capabilities. But the boxes are all ticked.

You are quoting the Peter Principle here Grist, which applies to all management structures everywhere. The PP suggests that staff are routinely promoted because of perceived success in their existing roles and will keep being promoted until they reach their "level of incompetence". It is sometimes applied to the Police, Government Ministers, Civil Servants, Football Directors and some would even claim, to Fitness Coaches

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

You are quoting the Peter Principle here Grist, which applies to all management structures everywhere. The PP suggests that staff are routinely promoted because of perceived success in their existing roles and will keep being promoted until they reach their "level of incompetence". It is sometimes applied to the Police, Government Ministers, Civil Servants, Football Directors and some would even claim, to Fitness Coaches

It’s a bit of a “refinement” of that where people are given a boost up the ladder because they are female, ethnic background or ***ual leaning regardless of their overall competence or any perceived success.

Take a look at the head of the Met police and the Head of the London Fire Brigade to see this in action.

[Pattylallacks2]

The police in this country only solve 7.8% of crimes now, whereas Canada, with fewer police, solve 41%, these new, PC, university-educated coppers don't seem to be doing too well.

I think it would be unfair to single out one section of the police force for the pitiful prevention and detection rates, which are (yet another) national disgrace. I'm also not sure of the value of comparing one country's crime and detection rates with another's. They rarely compare like with like. But there is clearly a very serious problem in the UK. Whatever the government says most people agree that the declining rates of detection are linked to the decline in police funding. Figures produced in 2018 showed that Police Forces in England and Wales were receiving less funding than they got in 2010.
Other factors come into play, of course, and we have all heard horror stories (especially here in South Yorkshire) about police incompetence. The culture in many police forces is toxic and root and stem reform is decades overdue. Even if the political will and the necessary finance were there it would take many years to make any real improvement in either the effectiveness or reputation of the police.