O/T Coronavirus Thread

[rolymiller]

Here's something a bit more important Ladapo and Price self isolating:

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...crisis-2502523

Hope the lads are ok.

Best wishes to both

[WanChaiMiller]

These are some of the startling observations in a report released on 28 February from a mission organized by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Chinese government that allowed 13 foreigners to join 12 Chinese scientists on a tour of five cities in China to study the state of the COVID-19 epidemic and the effectiveness of the country’s response.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...ther-countries

[WanChaiMiller]

I think other world leaders will do well to get on the China.

"A group of 300 Chinese intensive-care doctors began to arrive in Italy on Wednesday, one of several Chinese offers to support epidemic-stricken European countries, as China tries to rebrand itself internationally from source of the new coronavirus to a friendly helper."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese...ly-11584564673

[rolymiller]

Howdy and Kerr need to read this. Yes it is not denying it is authoritarian but it looks positive doesn't it. We should not dismiss this out of hand if it is bringing results. Not saying it would work and it may be severe. And no I'm not suggesting we carry on following this model.

Come on lads what do you think?

[howdydoo]

I'm a bit puzzled why you think this is a false story. The second time you have pulled me up for this for with no evidence it is wrong. Why would they lie about it? The china thing that is!

It could be untrue but i don;t see a reason for them to lie unless you are insinuating all communists lie

Is it because you wouldn't want the chinese govt to be seen to make a better job of it than ours. You really shouldn't be that obsessed with how good our govt is compared to others at least not without the evidence. . Even I have said we will say how it all turns out...

You said at the last election you were reluctantly gonna vote Tory. Now 3 months into power they are the bees knees..maybe you werent so reluctant after all...

You made it political. Have i mentioned communism?

If China have stopped testing people, maybe they have no 'new cases'

In any other scenario, there is no way they have stopped this virus spreading. Not without a vaccine that works.


I don't trust any government but it's clear they're all sh!t scared. I'll assume we're getting more truth from the Western World than we are from further afield. Just a hunch. We'll see and for once (and it will be once) I hope you're right.

Take heed because the gravity of this outbreak definitely hasn't sunk in yet and it's definitely not the time to be knocking anyone.

[howdydoo]

Howdy and Kerr need to read this. Yes it is not denying it is authoritarian but it looks positive doesn't it. We should not dismiss this out of hand if it is bringing results. Not saying it would work and it may be severe. And no I'm not suggesting we carry on following this model.

Come on lads what do you think?

Maybe they do have a vaccine. Hmmmmm. Where's James Bond when you need him?

[WanChaiMiller]

Howdy and Kerr need to read this. Yes it is not denying it is authoritarian but it looks positive doesn't it. We should not dismiss this out of hand if it is bringing results. Not saying it would work and it may be severe. And no I'm not suggesting we carry on following this model.

Come on lads what do you think?

China had lockdowns in hotspot areas. So, lockdowns in 3 of the 34 provences. They tracked and traced every individual. This seems to be what stopped the spread going throughout the country.

They acted early. It would appear you only get one chance and that is at the outset. We seemed to have missed that chance as our strategy was to allow the virus to spread create herd emunity. Italy acted late and lost track of cases.

The second part of the China strategy was brilliant healthcare. New hospitals opened and they shifted health care workers from all parts of China to those hotspots.

[WanChaiMiller]

You made it political. Have i mentioned communism?

If China have stopped testing people, maybe they have no 'new cases'

In any other scenario, there is no way they have stopped this virus spreading. Not without a vaccine that works.


I don't trust any government but it's clear they're all sh!t scared. I'll assume we're getting more truth from the Western World than we are from further afield. Just a hunch. We'll see and for once (and it will be once) I hope you're right.

Take heed because the gravity of this outbreak definitely hasn't sunk in yet and it's definitely not the time to be knocking anyone.

So why knock China? Surely we can look at what theyve done and learn.

[rolymiller]

You made it political. Have i mentioned communism?

If China have stopped testing people, maybe they have no 'new cases'

In any other scenario, there is no way they have stopped this virus spreading. Not without a vaccine that works.


I don't trust any government but it's clear they're all sh!t scared. I'll assume we're getting more truth from the Western World than we are from further afield. Just a hunch. We'll see and for once (and it will be once) I hope you're right.

Take heed because the gravity of this outbreak definitely hasn't sunk in yet and it's definitely not the time to be knocking anyone.

Lets rule a line under the political argument eh Howdy and move on. Agree to disagree for the sake of our readers? And hope the chinese do have a formula that works or at least can help.

[rolymiller]

China had lockdowns in hotspot areas. So, lockdowns in 3 of the 34 provences. They tracked and traced every individual. This seems to be what stopped the spread going throughout the country.

They acted early. It would appear you only get one chance and that is at the outset. We seemed to have missed that chance as our strategy was to allow the virus to spread create herd emunity. Italy acted late and lost track of cases.

The second part of the China strategy was brilliant healthcare. New hospitals opened and they shifted health care workers from all parts of China to those hotspots.

Does sound as though they made a fast and effective response to the problem. Time will tell. We would be daft not to listen to their methodology at least.