O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[pingu_pie]

More evidence of how impressed we should be with the leadership. This time from an actual science journal, the New England Journal of Medicine. To sum up, not very impressed at all.

If there are any big words that some of the dimmer reactionaries on here don’t understand, just ask.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...ry=main_nav_lg

That's an excellent article, and demonstrates very well why an issue like this isn't / shouldn't be / can't be divorced from politics.
I have zero idea of how someone could have watched this play out so far and thought there is good leadership involved; apart, of course, from those who view the entire world through "Get Brexit done" and think the answer to everything is Diane Abbott is rubbish. Having just moved over here, Varadkar was much quicker in making decisions to limit social interaction, and that's without there even being a government. Even then, it could be said they perhaps ought to have shut more things down more quickly.

A couple of friends at my old workplace have kept me up to date with the instructions they were being given from the executives, and it was laughable how long it waffled to what is still not a stop - for several days it included the lovely instruction that "if you share a house with someone who is having to isolate, you must still come to work". All these decisions were based on... The UK government advice.

One thing of particular interest is the mentions of the nudge unit. Not the first time I've read about them, and if it turns out that "following scientific advice" meant they were listening to behavioural insight on people getting frustrated by staying home for a while then... Well, do I need to spell out the failure in strength of leadership in that case???

[tarquinbeech]

That's an excellent article, and demonstrates very well why an issue like this isn't / shouldn't be / can't be divorced from politics.
I have zero idea of how someone could have watched this play out so far and thought there is good leadership involved; apart, of course, from those who view the entire world through "Get Brexit done" and think the answer to everything is Diane Abbott is rubbish. Having just moved over here, Varadkar was much quicker in making decisions to limit social interaction, and that's without there even being a government. Even then, it could be said they perhaps ought to have shut more things down more quickly.

A couple of friends at my old workplace have kept me up to date with the instructions they were being given from the executives, and it was laughable how long it waffled to what is still not a stop - for several days it included the lovely instruction that "if you share a house with someone who is having to isolate, you must still come to work". All these decisions were based on... The UK government advice.

One thing of particular interest is the mentions of the nudge unit. Not the first time I've read about them, and if it turns out that "following scientific advice" meant they were listening to behavioural insight on people getting frustrated by staying home for a while then... Well, do I need to spell out the failure in strength of leadership in that case???

Next time anyone sneezes, let's close the country down, cancel every single sporting event, arrest Elite and his Chelters bus and give them an automatic 12 months in pokey......anyone daring to open their front door, shoot 'em in the head, level all the schools and supermarkets (they ain't gonna be needed after everyone is dead anyway) and lob mars bars and burgers-n-chips onto rooftops via drones to the few survivors....there you go, vote for Tarkers, the man with all the answers.

Meanwhile, I'm happily growing my veggies, the animals are chewing the grass and I might live on the wild side tomorrow by walking to the supermarket to buy another litre of Captain Morgans....oooo errr Tarkers, that's scary, "yes I know, I might trip and get a grass-burn"

[BigFatPie]

That's an excellent article, and demonstrates very well why an issue like this isn't / shouldn't be / can't be divorced from politics.
I have zero idea of how someone could have watched this play out so far and thought there is good leadership involved; apart, of course, from those who view the entire world through "Get Brexit done" and think the answer to everything is Diane Abbott is rubbish. Having just moved over here, Varadkar was much quicker in making decisions to limit social interaction, and that's without there even being a government. Even then, it could be said they perhaps ought to have shut more things down more quickly.

A couple of friends at my old workplace have kept me up to date with the instructions they were being given from the executives, and it was laughable how long it waffled to what is still not a stop - for several days it included the lovely instruction that "if you share a house with someone who is having to isolate, you must still come to work". All these decisions were based on... The UK government advice.

One thing of particular interest is the mentions of the nudge unit. Not the first time I've read about them, and if it turns out that "following scientific advice" meant they were listening to behavioural insight on people getting frustrated by staying home for a while then... Well, do I need to spell out the failure in strength of leadership in that case???

Whatever you think of his politics/record/lifestyle, Johnson is just the worst type of person to put across a simple message that can be clearly understood. Not only because of his delivery, but because he appears to just not want to tell people anything that he thinks they won’t want to hear.

Having said all that, stopping at home with your kids is going to drive people mad, including me.