Coronavirus and football.

[ramAnag]

On a side note, if the season is nullified, will Bury be given a chance to rescue themselves?

Someone, GP I think, raised that a while ago.

Obviously no one knows, but it’s one of many questions that are raised if the season is ‘nullified’...like...are people, especially season ticket holders, to be reimbursed because none of the matches they’ve paid to see have actually been truly ‘competitive’.

Much easier, affordable and more fitting to work out a fair ‘virtual’ end to the season imo, and no Tricky, I haven’t worked out if this would be to the detriment of Forest and the benefit of Derby before you ask.

Don’t see it making any difference at all to us, although I think another question that was asked, probably again by GP, was...can we be guilty of financial wrongdoing this season if this season no longer exists?

[Trickytreesreds]

Someone, GP I think, raised that a while ago.

Obviously no one knows, but it’s one of many questions that are raised if the season is ‘nullified’...like...are people, especially season ticket holders, to be reimbursed because none of the matches they’ve paid to see have actually been truly ‘competitive’.

Much easier, affordable and more fitting to work out a fair ‘virtual’ end to the season imo, and no Tricky, I haven’t worked out if this would be to the detriment of Forest and the benefit of Derby before you ask.

Don’t see it making any difference at all to us, although I think another question that was asked, probably again by GP, was...can we be guilty of financial wrongdoing this season if this season no longer exists?

I never said you did.

If the season is not finished as normal, it is null and void. Those are the rules end of.
If that means my side misses out, so be it.
No ups no downs, no trophies. tough

[swaledale]

I never said you did.

If the season is not finished as normal, it is null and void. Those are the rules end of.
If that means my side misses out, so be it.
No ups no downs, no trophies. tough

What rules? Where exactly is this stipulated in the PL or EFL rules? My understanding is that it isn't because it was never envisaged.

I still think the season will be completed, there are various contracts with Tv companies etc. Even if that means starting it in August and starting next season after a couple of weeks break. Thats not impractical and not beyond the wit of intelligent human beings to organise!

[Trickytreesreds]

What rules? Where exactly is this stipulated in the PL or EFL rules? My understanding is that it isn't because it was never envisaged.

I still think the season will be completed, there are various contracts with Tv companies etc. Even if that means starting it in August and starting next season after a couple of weeks break. Thats not impractical and not beyond the wit of intelligent human beings to organise!

As quoted, any fixtures not completed are null and void. It wasn't difficult to understand was it? If they don't finish the season, they can't possibly promote/ relegate anyone. Null and void.

As for finishing the season, it isn't as easy as you make out. You have to comply with UEFA and their fixtures. You have to allow for the rest periods that will be lost. You will throw the transfer market up in the air.
On a personal front, my club was due to knock down the main stand this summer. God knows whats happening now.
So it isn't as simple as you are projecting Swale.
Remember everyone would have to agree and comply.
The longer this quarantine goes on, ( the signs look like it getting extended) then the odds are the season is gone.

[Andy_Faber]

As quoted, any fixtures not completed are null and void. It wasn't difficult to understand was it? If they don't finish the season, they can't possibly promote/ relegate anyone. Null and void.

As for finishing the season, it isn't as easy as you make out. You have to comply with UEFA and their fixtures. You have to allow for the rest periods that will be lost. You will throw the transfer market up in the air.
On a personal front, my club was due to knock down the main stand this summer. God knows whats happening now.
So it isn't as simple as you are projecting Swale.
Remember everyone would have to agree and comply.
The longer this quarantine goes on, ( the signs look like it getting extended) then the odds are the season is gone.

I can see hear the phrase 'I'll see you in court' becoming well-worn

[ramAnag]

I can see hear the phrase 'I'll see you in court' becoming well-worn

I imagine that’ll be the case whichever solution is found, Andy.

As Jurgen Klopp suggested...’football is the most important of the least important things’...it can’t be that difficult to achieve a fair conclusion, but imo ‘voiding’ the season with so much of it done would be the most unfair.

[Andy_Faber]

I imagine that’ll be the case whichever solution is found, Andy.

As Jurgen Klopp suggested...’football is the most important of the least important things’...it can’t be that difficult to achieve a fair conclusion, but imo ‘voiding’ the season with so much of it done would be the most unfair.

Although I'm sure we would agree that football isn't a fraction as important as life and death, and on that basis (and especially after coming across an LUFC thread on facebook yesterday) there would certainly be some elements of the unfairness i could live with

[Trickytreesreds]

I can see hear the phrase 'I'll see you in court' becoming well-worn

I QUITE AGREE ANDY.

Someone is bound to squeal like a piglet, whatever is decided

[swaledale]

As quoted, any fixtures not completed are null and void. It wasn't difficult to understand was it? If they don't finish the season, they can't possibly promote/ relegate anyone. Null and void.

As for finishing the season, it isn't as easy as you make out. You have to comply with UEFA and their fixtures. You have to allow for the rest periods that will be lost. You will throw the transfer market up in the air.
On a personal front, my club was due to knock down the main stand this summer. God knows whats happening now.
So it isn't as simple as you are projecting Swale.
Remember everyone would have to agree and comply.
The longer this quarantine goes on, ( the signs look like it getting extended) then the odds are the season is gone.

Except that isn't what you posted!

I quote "If the season is not finished as normal, it is null and void. Those are the rules end of."

Now I ask again which rules state if the season isn't finished as normal its null and void? Your now saying IF fixtures aren't completed, which is different and I would agree if thats the case.

I didn't say finishing the season was easy, I said it was possible to do so, if there is a will.

Yes they have to comply with UEFA, but the UK isn't an exception all leagues are in the same situation and UEFA will come to an agreement with all concerned if thats what it takes. They have already postponed the Euros!

I see no issue complying with rest periods - after all we are in one now and players can take a break of 3 or 4 weeks before starting next season later. Competitions can be either sidelined or format amended to achieve what is required.

The transfer market is going to be thrown up in the air anyway and its purely an administrative change to alter the transfer window.

Well in domestic competitions there is a majority rule for the prem and the EFL for decisions, but its not inconceivable that an agreement on a plan can be reached.

I'd agree that if it can't be restarted by the end of May then there are issues but again its not beyond the wit of UEFA the FA etc to come up with a workable solution.

[MadAmster]

What rules? Where exactly is this stipulated in the PL or EFL rules? My understanding is that it isn't because it was never envisaged.

I still think the season will be completed, there are various contracts with Tv companies etc. Even if that means starting it in August and starting next season after a couple of weeks break. Thats not impractical and not beyond the wit of intelligent human beings to organise!

Ha anybody actually read the EFL rules with regard to uncompleted matches? I know that there is a clause that voids all results of a team if they fail to complete the season. I am unaware of a clause that covers the entire competition not getting completed. I have had a quick look on the EFL site and didn't find such a clause. Does anybody else on here KNOW of such a clause?