O/T Prince Charles Tests Positive

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Wow back to normal we go.

"claim" to be working class?
I think I can "claim" to be more working class than you are.

My faith in right idiology as you call it, isn't down to a desire to line any ones up the ladder pockets.
I think my "working class" party has been hijacked by far left loons that have very little in whats right for the rest of us and it appears the electorate agreed.
So restore a credible opposition and I'll vote for it with a pleasure. So far we've had the worst Labour party leader in 85 years and a Liberal party led by a deluded idiot, who proclaimed herself the next priminister, whilst crapping on every voter in the country.

They voted Hitler and Trump in, because they were sick to death of detached MP's thinking they didn't have to listen to anyone else and crapping on everyone.
Are you comparing Trump with the rise of the Nazi's BTW?

Working class people are who you have to convince to get voted into office in any country.
Ask yourself why you and your ilk failed.

I said claim because I've no idea whether you are or not, though maybe you are because your wearing your so called class like a badge of honour! Which is strange, why would you be proud at having remained at the same level of society? What is there to be proud of?

As or being more working class than me, mm maybe as things stand today, but my background is not one of a silver spoon, nobody I knew gave me access to anything other people couldn't have. I was laughed at by people like you who were earning "big bucks" in their early 20's whilst i was a poor student and then when I took jobs on low pay but with development prospects. When I carried on getting educated instead of wasting my time down the boozer.

Now I appreciate that not everyone from my background had the ability academically, BUT most had other skills and indeed others founded their own business, had imagination and worked at improving their lot.

If you ****ed around at school, left education and importantly stayed living where you were born then thats fine your choice but you can't really complain that life has treated you unfairly.

I'm not sure your right when you say you have to convince so called working class voters to get elected, it rather depends upon the constituency as in reality its a relatively few seats that elect a government.

Its ironic that you think your "working class" party is now too left wing - last tie I looked left wing ideology was to restrict the unfairness of a small percentage making a lot of wealth at the expense of the majority of society whilst not giving a **** about the so called working class. Labour had moved nearly to the right of Thatcher under Blair so some realignment was necessary.

Me and my ilk? Who would that be then? Anybody with more than half a brain cell between them? We failed? How? Your the apologist for right wing politics that decimated industry in the 80's and exported jobs overseas with no replacement.

Your half right about Hitler and Trump, people do vote for change often blindly but how utterly thick do you have to be to not understand that the promises these shysters make are not actually going to benefit you?

What your really saying is that by and large a whole bulk of the populace ( which from the statements you post on here includes yourself) are unable to deduce facts from fantasy and will vote for anyone who who makes promises that appeals to them with no thought for the consequences!

Yep that makes sense!

You and your ilk will always be fodder for those with power in society, a cheap labour force expendable a willing army to sacrifice according to their whim. Like sheep to the slaughter and now you vote for a rich entitled ex public school boy for whom lying is second nature and who backs the cause that will benefit his own self interest!

Now I wouldn't vote for right wing party and hence the Tories under any circumstances, even though I may personally benefit from their policies. Thats because unlike you I'm not a hypocrite, I don't want to inflict pain on those less fortunate than myself.

Also in this country you don't vote for the leader, you vote for your local MP and the parties policies.