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    Quote Originally Posted by 9goals2hattricks3pen View Post
    They are every night at 5. Repeatedly.
    .........and they don’t get adequately answered 923,not even close.

    This fiasco with the Turkey shipment that was arriving “Sunday”.

    There’s still no guarantee it’ll be here today or tomorrow.......why?

    Hancock or whoever answer the question.....why?

    I’ve been importing containers and LCL deliveries from China and Europe for 24years,it really isn’t that difficult.

    Planes and container ships are booked well in advance so the only other explanation is that the government is lying about arrival date or the factory making the goods has f hooked up........there’s no other reasons for this delay.

    If it was down to the factory then they’d be quick to call them out but they haven’t.

    The galling thing about this PPE stuff is that it can all be made on fully automated production lines so it’s something that could and should be made in the U.K.

    If the government had any sense at all it would create a state entity to produce stuff like this.

    Once you’ve invested in the machinery you then get years and years of creating the stuff at the cheapest price.

    Either that or they set up a link with a major company and agree a base price per product at the start and the only price fluctuations allowed are for inflation and increases/decreases in oil price.

    Maybe it’s just the small businessman in me that makes me so angry because so many of these issues are so easily solved to the benefit of the NHS,it’s workers and the tax payer.

    Oh and by the way.......

    Matt Hancock...........LIAR!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    .........and they don’t get adequately answered 923,not even close.

    This fiasco with the Turkey shipment that was arriving “Sunday”.

    There’s still no guarantee it’ll be here today or tomorrow.......why?

    Hancock or whoever answer the question.....why?

    I’ve been importing containers and LCL deliveries from China and Europe for 24years,it really isn’t that difficult.

    Planes and container ships are booked well in advance so the only other explanation is that the government is lying about arrival date or the factory making the goods has f hooked up........there’s no other reasons for this delay.

    If it was down to the factory then they’d be quick to call them out but they haven’t.

    The galling thing about this PPE stuff is that it can all be made on fully automated production lines so it’s something that could and should be made in the U.K.

    If the government had any sense at all it would create a state entity to produce stuff like this.

    Once you’ve invested in the machinery you then get years and years of creating the stuff at the cheapest price.

    Either that or they set up a link with a major company and agree a base price per product at the start and the only price fluctuations allowed are for inflation and increases/decreases in oil price.

    Maybe it’s just the small businessman in me that makes me so angry because so many of these issues are so easily solved to the benefit of the NHS,it’s workers and the tax payer.

    Oh and by the way.......

    Matt Hancock...........LIAR!!!!
    You’ve nailed it Mick. Exactly my point i’m trying to make, why can’t Hancock think more proactively and as you’ve suggested have a state run entity. There’s no contingency plan and it would seem as there’s too much reliance on one supply and be let down on the 11th hour. As a former business person myself and one that I will go onto again in future, this frustrates the living out of me especially working with incompetent people (mostly in public sector). I can clearly see the solutions in many aspects of business, yet nobody else does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    .........and they don’t get adequately answered 923,not even close.

    This fiasco with the Turkey shipment that was arriving “Sunday”.

    There’s still no guarantee it’ll be here today or tomorrow.......why?

    Hancock or whoever answer the question.....why?

    I’ve been importing containers and LCL deliveries from China and Europe for 24years,it really isn’t that difficult.

    Planes and container ships are booked well in advance so the only other explanation is that the government is lying about arrival date or the factory making the goods has f hooked up........there’s no other reasons for this delay.

    If it was down to the factory then they’d be quick to call them out but they haven’t.

    The galling thing about this PPE stuff is that it can all be made on fully automated production lines so it’s something that could and should be made in the U.K.

    If the government had any sense at all it would create a state entity to produce stuff like this.

    Once you’ve invested in the machinery you then get years and years of creating the stuff at the cheapest price.

    Either that or they set up a link with a major company and agree a base price per product at the start and the only price fluctuations allowed are for inflation and increases/decreases in oil price.

    Maybe it’s just the small businessman in me that makes me so angry because so many of these issues are so easily solved to the benefit of the NHS,it’s workers and the tax payer.

    Oh and by the way.......

    Matt Hancock...........LIAR!!!!
    I have no doubt anyone could arrange a container of ping pong balls from China right now and I would suggest you could even get a promise of a PPE delivery. But could you actually get the delivery here?

    The Turkey consignment saga which had such close scrutiny is just one example of the shenanigans involving Coronavirus products that is making it impossible for govts to deliver on promises. I heard an interview on the World Service last night with the Turkish ambassador to the UK and my guess is the Turks were dragging their feet holding out for more money (the supplier is a private co nothing to do with the Turkish Govt).Why didn't we call them out? Turkey is a major supplier of PPE. Is now a good time to point the finger?

    Here are just some of numerous examples all after contracts had been signed
    Germany blocked exports of 240,000 items to Switzerland and Czechia/Turkish govt blocked sales of ventilators to Spain/Slovakia lost a consignment from China when Germany paid more/Italian truck sent to Switzerland returned empty because a foreign country had taken the promised goods/France seized face masks and sanitizers on the way here/Italy seized 800,000 masks meant for Switzerland/680.000 bound for Italy face masks and ventilators confiscated by Czechia in an anti-trafficking operation. Czechia admitted the mistake but kept the goods/Swedish company claims France confiscates 6 million face masks from China destined for Spain and Italy/lots of stories of goods received not what was ordered or faulty.

    Want to be the man responsible for managing that? I don't!

    Why aren't we making gowns for instance here. Guy on our local news tonight has the machinery but can't get the specialist material.

    I'm no fan of Matt Hancock and I wouldn't be surprised to see him go.He is an awful communicator so many ums and ers. but I do consider he is being made the scapegoat by a many. It's difficult in these times to take a barometer of ones views against others and I would appear to be in the minority on here. However last night 11 of us.'got together' for book club and to a man and woman we were all supportive of the govt speakers at the briefings and sick to the back teeth of the questions being asked. And 5 of the group either worked in NHS. were ex NHS or had family in the NHS
    Last edited by 9goals2hattricks3pen; 22-04-2020 at 09:20 PM.

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